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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1674733672; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=5lf1yGZfYVU3aRfQzyJ5pRHSoBxFfs0U1Gz05yhfntE=; b=grN1mm2YIk46AIgQFPU/8MzCClnChMrHaGFJ/O4qjUozNIgUcdMuHfF9xPlb11lK4c5nIn c3PBmbkz3rcdA04ngsK+RQaDCqhImtn7lhDGA5yiSq7VFQF145KhAbJy0LWv9hyV2nWFWJ sJSYPVS37k03QZ/InrzVW8yc+J4J7AgQ/QA8axMpqBQH7+Ux5ml/8OFHaR9YslWFRMbE95 LFaRkw/LZV3gDs0Nk3gN8m9ok47OTd2SIEBTef8AMwWK82CgV1XZeSPMv5hslbmcrh5TV8 rD6ve9Kt739Lbbkr41vHUAPnbP9xQoYtaX+9Nbd7zpdHaCxd2Kojh75eUW3rgw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.at header.s=s31663417 header.b=gy01QUnv; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmx.at ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1674733672; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OYEGPKfVqnKQMsPaYeo9YxDgWZpk1SaZLvtKXtpRRvrD7IwZYjIOH8NRwBLAAGOr9jucoe +uUgRcytymsnJBLWsBqkttKmlQyPeeiCafupmZuCCutelA7BKXeIKtJsAbfXl6QLnlsmlN oRF2Vx6OL5dt9ifdDpDpYLDCaNo0N/HJs9ezhqQ6uJbs6hazSLSwlKljBtRQ0k76xG60s0 +BowdB3KHBKZE/CLwAYjQU5jERxLdPzuC3xgvHeGHFekiuqVAP8hA5J/SFGuWCemaZF6dr YT4YmGN4hi4bNUSFOqw2jT/ivO4igGVXncX3ABdUdq8RcsRx8Y/NOY30oSn0yw== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.at header.s=s31663417 header.b=gy01QUnv; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmx.at X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.78 X-Spam-Score: -4.78 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9163122AF3 X-TUID: QZhR8qqIg+pH Ihor Radchenko wrote/hat geschrieben on/am 26.01.2023 12:14: > Heinz Tuechler writes: > >>> Also, what about Emacs supporting MS DOS and old versions of Windows? Do >>> they still qualify as popular software? >>> >> Microsoft would probably appreciate, if only the latest version were >> supported by free software. >> best regards, Heinz > > Are you implying that dropping support of obsolete non-free software > will encourage users to upgrade to newer versions of the same non-free > software? Yes > > If so, I disagree. It might equally encourage users to switch to newer > and also free equivalent. You maybe right > Unless there is no free equivalent, which is > not true for Windows or MS DOS, AFAIK. >