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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1657600136; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=esGOiHVYmxNKoXwZq7edjz6zag56Nr+jzXNDOxzWOKc=; b=J0dN2/N7gBc5/WlwyYfQeWWh9ZsiBrhbjafFD/J8VaCvrNxMucp0lrcM8St+tslJgBOhrR VxM0N75OcARRHLADGq4mmYR/MptoakAjjDa9tuyhtYHsG0Q8xBS6VbqJIKJYu2LZAuQSkg 8ESqQDAcfdvrIXl8FczJFaoNRkDdqrvzfCpP8kHRpPwmo6F1eh2e1K7mTU71aucgBUFlsH sCLnUoc+OwE471jW4GnjQ3PcO0dyVoIafoLcw0f8XoYVhkAGFvsFW69Z4OtxJatRsjXHJU XlU/6Zw350JHedgeMEw6IeM4nkzZPnvTq7Bzdy4CTgnLjDaf7ZD+C8G/Wr++Uw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1657600136; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=aNAc+VmxouaauBFS9NBJLS6p7cmHczhPXWWKjcNYo5ZN1aISxsY4WKEXwM4wng3TMBrSEC 0822YJioHInFsqS84fQ0B71xkBUNpSfCFNcFR+MGsDFWJ/1V3xvZWpBet/Ft4Cx6VKw2Jl 94VFGOmQGJvDzm7zYUUHn3rdzWKzLpY0Bk3ZOZV7WFFu787EEOkYqaLmiswge9U3hymasN 8yS4ft1Blhn0x00lqPd66JgtnGhF3xAjK7ztbJ0rz4dp08tyMpHk8xbMHeAdPIGIWCCxqW k4aUsTkqKiFtAxmHbs0966TZgzLuNDlZ7oDsE8+V6/U76H00PJcA+fzGqPjKsw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=eVMQlcT8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.05 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=eVMQlcT8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9E8F513680 X-Spam-Score: -4.05 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Nq+Vgc45En/k On 3 June 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > William Denton writes: > >>> For me, this looks like either a mixed installation (please post the >>> output of M-x org-version) or some third-party package misbehaving. >> >> M-x org-version says: >> >> Org mode version 9.5.3 (release_9.5.3-511-g8e69ad @ /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp/) > > Is /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp/ the folder where you installed the > latest Org version? (If not, this is likely the problem or part of the > problem). First of all, thanks for following up on this---I'm slow to respond, but appreciate your help in narrowing this down. The problem's been happening again, and tonight I can follow up with some details. That directory is where I installed Org. It's where I pull down the source tree with Git. > Usually, the problem you are seeing is when something is interfering > with 'invisible text property of links/other folded text. > > Can you post the value of org-link-parameters on your system? This is a new variable to me! I've never done anything with it, but it's got a lot in it. Value: (("attachment" :follow org-attach-follow :complete org-attach-complete-link) ("eww" :follow org-eww-open :store org-eww-store-link) ("rmail" :follow org-rmail-open :store org-rmail-store-link) ("mhe" :follow org-mhe-open :store org-mhe-store-link) ("irc" :follow org-irc-visit :store org-irc-store-link :export org-irc-export) ("info" :follow org-info-open :export org-info-export :store org-info-store-link) ("gnus" :follow org-gnus-open :store org-gnus-store-link) ("docview" :follow org-docview-open :export org-docview-export :store org-docview-store-link) ("bibtex" :follow org-bibtex-open :store org-bibtex-store-link) ("bbdb" :follow org-bbdb-open :export org-bbdb-export :complete org-bbdb-complete-link :store org-bbdb-store-link) ("w3m" :store org-w3m-store-link) ("doi" :follow org-link-doi-open :export org-link-doi-export) ("id" :follow org-id-open) ("file+sys") ("file+emacs") ("shell" :follow org-link--open-shell) (#1="news" :follow #f(compiled-function (url arg) #)) (#3="mailto" :follow #f(compiled-function (url arg) #)) (#6="https" :follow #f(compiled-function (url arg) #)) (#7="http" :follow #f(compiled-function (url arg) #)) (#8="ftp" :follow #f(compiled-function (url arg) #)) ("help" :follow org-link--open-help :store org-link--store-help) ("file" :complete org-link-complete-file) ("elisp" :follow org-link--open-elisp)) Original value was nil > You may also put the cursor onto unexpectedly visible link and check the > output of M-x describe-text-properties. Then, put the cursor right after > the link and run M-x describe-text-properties again. Then, share the > output. Here's a screenshot of the problem I get: https://www.miskatonic.org/tmp/org-problem.png And here's the output of describe-text-properties when the pointer is in the link that shouldn't be there: Text content at position 56157: There are 3 overlays here: From 55909 to 56345 face hl-line priority -50 window # From 56149 to 56170 evaporate t invisible org-link isearch-open-invisible delete-overlay org-invisible org-link priority 1 From 56151 to 56168 evaporate t invisible org-link-description isearch-open-invisible ignore isearch-open-invisible-temporary ignore org-invisible org-link-description priority 2 There are text properties here: face org-link font-lock-multiline t fontified t help-echo "LINK: fig_rereading_pct" htmlize-link (:uri "fig_rereading_pct") isearch-open-invisible org-fold-core--isearch-show isearch-open-invisible-temporary org-fold-core--isearch-show-temporary keymap [Show] line-prefix [Show] mouse-face highlight org-fold--spec-org-fold-outline--876068932062118346 org-fold-outline org-fold--spec-org-link-description-global org-link-description org-fold--spec-org-link-global org-link wrap-prefix [Show] > If you don't have time to dig into the problem, you can also set > org-fold-core-style to 'overlays in your config to activate legacy > folding support. It will most likely solve the immediate issue on your > side and let you work on more pressing things involving your Org > workflow. I've changed this (which was also mentioned in another thread yesterday) and will try it out for a while to see if that makes a difference. Thanks again, Bill -- William Denton https://www.miskatonic.org/ Librarian, artist and licensed private investigator. Toronto, Canada