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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617048953; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=sHwHcFLzPYsQ8Y08kLTki+23CJoKoHDevQqcEUX/eH4=; b=fWTpNpKA1CFhMvCK4/LNeD4k4LT+vAyCx39BYBWezx0VS+KmwBhsxopPErh6qCF+BKNSGv DUGWKI2d0fRHIqUTd7sO6S+ojz/f5FaUIIphfLEGHoa3+R4GrbtyDgbKKzCzJa9E1Og833 np36ExpjMbAJF2JyonB57c//8SDXhYaQm+iZmdk+ZKDHX9XLVKCFJeguNPRd4IJAPUUkEN eTwCC6/ym7/Yh1ECT6WL+IBlkFXTSSCEjdVHUccUS5ASSUeyxeOM24FLrhcM26PvW+buMj 3sqjZXSA/iFXyYa3T+QZ9ymo/C+N7s9z2XBq84KLj/EzzXq+dHoe5C1s/OmGYQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617048953; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=LRQmnlB19Jc8AZUXZBE5WfrWGGA1SzChi+lKZv50VTDTIEpn/yHFDTnavTjGX4MZkXoXQ6 OiYOIwp3emYG+O6lwE03jdE0G2uwc+CCU1heprDVd2qBj63YlFTu4QPgiND1N3QK0SodcI dni4F1ahrNwMl+1HqrZsNryX8JrQ6E7Lh3W+pH++a6l5vKiNNiGIvTYVegtBJGBTj8W93X J56IhDn0n5xTQAu18klzfhvPSrGjSp1fOMEg9R73K+JLbKK4fWeoyrDNAInmWuFk0ufsXt e0zSy5BB4xNsuzdWf4730L8P7jprX/xk5b2SpwsSoQ2xzl9mvtgIKNWtT0VeDg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b="uHX1Im 4"; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b="uHX1Im 4"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=pobox.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 77368AACB X-Spam-Score: -1.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 2tK0VfZuGrlN On 29 March 2021, Ypo wrote: > How do you think I should spend some hundreds (or thousands) of hours to > achieve maestry exporting my documents? I think the key question is: Do you want to preserve them as web pages or page-based documents? If the web, then it's HTML; if documents, I'd use LaTeX. OpenDocument is a fine format, and if you have a lot of fairly simple documents, you could certainly use it, but it's not the best way to get articles and books print-ready yourself. And if you want to make beautiful documents with great typography, LaTeX is the best choice, and of course integrates very well with Org. (I've never tweaked the LaTeX output from Org by hand, but some projects I do fully in LaTeX because it's just easiest to have total control and edit with AucTeX). To get better at it, I'd recommend reading the manual for the Memoir class [1] (the first few chapters that talk about page design, at least, then refer to the rest as needed) and Robert Bringhurst's THE ELEMENTS OF TYPOGRAPHIC STYLE [2] (which will give you ideas you can implement and right away your documents will look great). Bill [1] https://www.ctan.org/pkg/memoir [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style -- William Denton :: Toronto, Canada --- Listening to Art: https://listeningtoart.org/ https://www.miskatonic.org/ --- GHG.EARTH: https://ghg.earth/ Caveat lector. --- STAPLR: https://staplr.org/