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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619738532; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ayqe+13/TPWw/UYFLeAYM1GoNUhoLQzRFa1fXl5ScNY=; b=XerMiuNwncT8jWa7TRBpNbzFw89rYGeRtTCKRv/usgN9yrXsQkQ+0iLRafhyxu65q4IviD sFlZt80KpqHtXlxVNDXoGm1W+/zs0Yr4H4+q4HyrDK+ypedZueAgsQESMqoOka5wG3VMl5 c9dJx+P50jDEH+d8p+4gL3yoIcIubKqKV5iLLnVg7CcOohnTGPyguH5LOOaFS5Gk8NlDQU Yv5cc2vkJ2FR29pD/fqZYvkG1C8k9tVwsAVVQ5QulW8C+Noek5xntcVppfvqOk9N/E+e6K xkN7RYxkgU0/3ZziioXkaJ7OV/m5M3X9xoHfY2B+ckhfruWC/+KC9iZwEr7biA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619738532; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=DjnEfXIF5f0k+4ZBee6t/BThS3zC2a4OS1XD83jFggbv39d4KoDdPKsVTcecPsBNlPLvxL XsInq9EF2X/+ck1QvEz3R8iv88wO+vmaJTSomA0mhxidujvD3m5wpTQsB32LAj2lWEaQgg CUjCQaP2hvtG6R19ieuXKT1/sMrJvsD8Ao3FGHw7eSFV3YdMVwx7e/7Dn7Lz5jS5Zawm+N cGSBYUXhJq1Ebj0lntne3Yesujm1kEuBN6bcuxJs4d/lyTarwlrleoBPnjLXJsl40ntVuG 0c/lIGdY/dLQzq8Aa71fF57N5wn7LePpU4YzTTgSGq5szOr76HDPe6w2ik8P3w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=isnotmyreal.name header.s=default header.b=DW8eJaLG; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.46 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=isnotmyreal.name header.s=default header.b=DW8eJaLG; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2FEA3D6A2 X-Spam-Score: -1.46 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: vkLbuitwLXdY On 2021-04-28 00:59, Timothy wrote: > Bastien writes: > >> thanks for the proposal. I'm not convinved that users who don't know >> about `C-h m' will think of hitting `h' or another key. I might be >> wrong, so if beginners suggest they expect such a key and were amazed >> at how useful C-h m was for them when reading this thread, I might >> change my mind. > > I can distinctly recall hitting "?" in Org agenda when I was getting > started, after getting used to Magit. For some reason, "?" is the single key that comes to my mind as well (rather than "h" or any other). I don't know if I got that from Magit, general GNU/Linux usage, or what? Having said that, I am not arguing in favor of OPs proposal. Just mentioning the "single key" that came to mind, FWIW. As I mentioned in another reply, I think things are fine the way they are. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cheers, TRS-80