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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664293435; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=15OsBMgUcVFh23WsuF3h7AsSa2/H9cQ02J4kw76Nd8g=; b=aTOQvN1KXLwdmBhAMWuBV0EqP+2QSby22z3i501V9kuL4/+T33OidIEiGo+oAdr5YwQM29 sDvm8mIK8HH+HAVoZPDDMJCGeuO0ywArtjHxqYIAv72VX96dqYLdHMIJzsw8x1W/U8ujo9 t01J9oDemEK7TuAaSh9bv2kAfpYbAYn0qV3fz1uLvzUsuu+E4LL6MviPJQNz3QBGAHwhJN TbHvrZ986uIX9wO+V8CJFstmJXCTi0t5AspnudyIgj3v0Hm6sVajtT8jqn7roGyKFewl0Z 01zNnnAYJ3DSgk4DTUPwOhnKWYFWyoCEiciQU0L9/Inu96Q6/NXqwqtt6lm3cA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664293435; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bbEjsbqMmK4zzbI0f6aVbeWsmfUFjBw49glJVG1hu5Vge82To/gm1b3vZWNkwUSbn+0vOx ilZyVMfymm0U8/SnDKwwzNFTWRgLM42zZw0GywE0Hx47xl8pUMagF5MuQh1n4XCmNOvcGy /w+SSq55sdoERcDdx+LVlx6LEXReHz7+vG0jRnbd3gOEXOHMHZ58s79OComk8HeIAB+YCh YfZapUnM1cFxERqzhlO6xb66F2CRbg6aq9bZepJ+ct1rT1px0bzLQgvqcP4dWYvKed/6zJ ko8ZHGurZEzz70P3Fdq63p0Sf3b4l9P2D0+w6WBkwgeg2Lhuas8BdHdhDLzSmA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.64 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E27C262B0 X-Spam-Score: -0.64 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: o5PulcIhHHbB On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 04:06:17PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > * Tim Cross [2022-06-21 02:43]: > > > > Russell Adams writes: > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 02:03:15PM +0000, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > > >> I've been intrigued with GNU Hyperbole for a while. I'm reading the > > >> documentation and trying it out a bit. It seems that its button system > > >> is very powerful. But Org links are also powerful (and exportable), and > > >> can be extended outside of Org docs. It seems that hyperbole offers some > > >> cool stuff that Org also has. And other things that are not in Org. I > > >> find some parts a bit confusing. I wonder if anyone is using hyperbole > > >> with Org and can put here some minimal workflow example where both > > >> complement each other in some way. Just in case I'm missing something > > >> useful... > > > > > > Juan, > > > > > > I've often wondered the same thing. I've looked at Hyperbole several > > > times. They have been great at advertising when a new release > > > occurs. Yet I find that I can't really find a useful feature in it > > > that I don't get from Org-mode. > > > > > > Is there some keen feature I'm missing? What's the use case for > > > Hyperbole if you're already an Org-mode user? > > > > > > https://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ > > > > My experiences with it mirror yours. It looked interesting and there > > were some ideas which sounded interesting, but when I came to use it, I > > found little, if anything, which didn't have a close equivalence in org > > mode and many things in org mode which it did not have. > > > > In the end, it came down to asking myself do I really want yet another > > information management framework in my life and the answer was no. I do > > vaguely recall (it was a while ago) there were some ideas I thought > > would be good to add to org mode though. Unfortunately, I cannot recall > > the details now. > > I somehow cannot relate to it, Hyperbole and Org mode are quite > different things. I have Hyperbole all the time here running, no > matter if I use Org mode or what other lightweight markup language. Could you point to some usage of Hyperbole that could help address it's use case? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com https://www.adamsinfoserv.com/