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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1656937169; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=5WZcIgiYCyHInvcbXyKM5b94oThwd+DFQkRwFtTOTdI=; b=A9BfqNkeC8gZDHI79Q7j8JreQ7g/vcpKBTYsCGwyjirSNU6A0do0IMjhfxL0FyAvLWso/D vhH8O6B5t61Lz9fpxvZ2iQBzdMe0VfZmJ38T/VWnCofPme4RlSYb1MEXK9RsmKLNhlC1SI nCfupMUTD7c30qFNouaGNiQaxEH4MAedo893RufWOk+fU6K2/hSqBxrLvCkwH2XdiVUHhS jrjMQvf6nsGZ7op3iQ3UpUNrRAUgB8f3kZugg8uyug/Yz3AxbmCrnEkdE0msjhubSmNhCC DOiLFZSN6a5LjVJQi1GbiIAmYm1MXbqgPwGgiqveRqrkvlNsZkF9yLFBr3JSDw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1656937169; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=C6/MbsHJIVDlMJx0JtsUMONT6UV9SJeKy9JORpF4hQHKNUsrBtEMcDe28W6E1x3dYHeNDy DjBzjtExzy6W5iAh/hU19of06xpi2CsBD4ZjrXRLyXybp6S9sQN87gXCEZW4v8aPZHr0R8 X4YLchsuhtlORQIyLgtcKlXGnXzYPJss/pl9KBL18nZzpyo/P8RkCCLaQlku97yIDAznBo LaMd/FUpnJ8dapqE1cSIpCg2vR8xPWOO9mGPowbP3LpQU+6AYCMOGZtIEaRbylGcFtJeQZ GY1YggNZr0JPte0zudGvIC+xjONSHWM97crpGGa37ZAa6Q/+aYYTTT1xKSeZ6Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=pe1io29O; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.64 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=pe1io29O; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BCB013FD25 X-Spam-Score: -1.64 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: rOyeN6IIU98Z --Ra8MPEzn2N8U9ZYG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 09:42:01AM +0200, Uwe Brauer wrote: [...] > That is the first time I remember that on this list, questions of the > foundation of mathematics are discussed =F0=9F=98=89 Such things happen :) > Back to the point, maybe I am too conservative, but I would include 0 > within the natural numbers, If you really were, you wouldn't. Peano himself didn't ;-) > and the example I started with, needs to > cover that case (student marks range between 0 to 10 both included), so > sorting should work (for me) in that case. See? I went to school in Spain, so I know about that 0..10 scale. But then I went to school in Germany, so I also know about the 6..1 scale. Go figure :) > I don't see, so far any benefit for not considering 0 in that sorting > process. But your concrete problem isn't a sorting process at all, just a conversion process: empty space gets translated to zero. As someone else found out in this thread. Cheers --=20 t --Ra8MPEzn2N8U9ZYG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCYsLaDgAKCRAFyCz1etHa RjBfAJwK3Mc5c2//wx2EkGgPZxjYdRk0KwCfe4ot2lb3E6FzS0mXmiTiYZu3h40= =BhLk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Ra8MPEzn2N8U9ZYG--