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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1652294571; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=BrCSLhN1EwWqt93zCbJlJIQ/kVhdlvMZ68NQOk+5xlg=; b=KX0knStgCLIRbHDKDQR+RVxk+YUBckOkaQloInECUcdV19+FxIinZJ/ZI4dkKeljUXCB3Z hENfLaAxhs10HRIDS3ghy6azrp3zQeo6+JMYjj8aSQEbykiyUY1rwCWVyNl660irX9lBHm bxewuQRY+Co897uPdvW0F58Nni1rTCkvjNipj1egWEl1tNeUT7VhoK0hY7dgCrgVY2mPut xPDszcP8pd+hZpBQUX3YqJGhd83qZL1LFDLuc6dhL7Tvytawc1dgkhczXmgM/huD9zPXoq Q0rVe/fpCiFM38BqCwNDslXsUMOBkg11qmRqyp+FwFDeW08m1iO+sTGl4ChIpg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1652294571; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=flEyO2jAYWQgbT3XLEWmY9pyfGgdz3wrPDK8iDJ3ewFm1hTFvW6HkjHQZcz1qYkmSsebF8 95fquhRY5vPgTDv3BrGLlu8mSLVCdamqTE+UQyK7jX5QUzQ2w/IoqzhUVpaGShIiTxBMkf hPRUFVvRwZ3+eaJ9v4/DX48NkMIUpAW4un4jIYU+7u9+c9a8Ov/9YQ82Wgq1k5RjsXICG7 B+nTr+x0H5aFn7W3KsVTqLkaISQ9EC9LrdscAQLiIUaM4ORSgGLMSc+Efzp6YGMpr389kE JZWRBVZ7EqgO2Y6ZBhOrXJXJgM4ooFCSiMx/oNiB34QwiUjBVUvuNi7YyNs/tQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.81 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 43AE13CED8 X-Spam-Score: -2.81 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: +lbux77b0jau On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 09:23:27PM +0300, Daniel Fleischer wrote: > Russell Adams [2022-05-11 Wed 18:14] wrote: > > > Could I add some minor mode to say text-mode with auto-fill-mode and > > aspell somewhere when opening those blocks? > > Hi! If you're editing text why do you need a special buffer? You can > edit them in the orgmode buffer and enjoy all its textual features. First up, it's because it used to work and now it doesn't. ;] Second it can be very useful to work on a sub-buffer, or indirect buffer for some content. Why shouldn't I be able to edit the contents of that block inside an indirect buffer where my beginning-of-buffer, end-of-buffer, word wrap, or global find and replace are constrained to that block of text? This works for example blocks, but no longer for verse and quote blocks. These are native Org block types and not my fanciful made up ones. Why should the popup work for example blocks, but not the others? That borders on a bug, where my question was considered as a configuration question. Finally when you edit in the popup buffer, the results are indented which makes the document more legible. Regular text tools do that inconsistently. > The special buffer is for major modes which are not orgmode such as > programming languages or latex which use different > completions/highlighting/minor-modes and editing them in orgmode is > a hassle. I think what I am using were once called "special blocks". You're referring to source blocks. They have many more features but are outside the question. https://orgmode.org/manual/Special-blocks-in-LaTeX-export.html Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com https://www.adamsinfoserv.com/