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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638747366; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=9iKzXU6+IkOKuRmzUm2Fz3E/lDEUOJeYSNFwV5A99eI=; b=PFU8G+O7Zl4O8i88ukFUcL1Vi8vJ011NENiOkf7Opdv+0IctoBimRkDZvO+3bm7zlNNPXh PAKsag9I4gPam2LcpWf/Bly9GnynV+msk59y+eLodSEUXByRGQRNqXyvPXciGDpUg1zVY2 qMNzerb6bZ7Zv0Fuvu5kugoOTCsXQ/6LI6S39qprw19Svpi8/9wFUFwKrZbYr+d3tPWRNl fUix7OjCKuy6bX+PauUtgvqPcW/9jmKq+DIcPCxLiVUx7fgTK3/bXq8tnFyik8/sP0tmsf OeqYhk/Ym4wP0KkvgJ66fPagBkWxcLzGHQelmOKoZET5xPE2wVCTJM065rotVA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638747366; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Zu/N8BteH0nUupC1VLFzQi+/yluRz5VgSITdzJ40W2knx+LVLp9BxO1RXuHhQFgGgB0LCz 54EIjko2dwgyM7r9pjT6Eq96BPSlYHMfm/l/Lrm1LE8FvIRpCK0KME6bnsrt5YtdQIf4mV h/FOkX+/Tc0ShUdZgAH993dEOK/A1j2inFmthUgBe+B8pAlTnp0WFjFspUAKF7DxNLsx1M KonksQmav0pQ2aaMLioZSFBwrKG5PmTPw+RkWyoLVtG/EN+VHCNb2L7ffoHywhQFd4ZWbZ v1FfCegM+53z77PiWyxvX2sHopsnjb8GSAMupqHkTtQSJl8PC2dG++s5UK04pA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.44 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E335231D1B X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: R/ZBKSnOWRcV On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 10:01:15PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 04/12/2021 06:51, Tim Cross wrote: > > > > Please, please can we stop trying to satisfy every edge case or extend > > the markup to satisfy every possible scenario. > > It is ridiculous to throw away a nice tool and start to struggle with > another bunch of problems when a small missed feature is really required. I think this is a problem of expectations. I don't export Org to export perfect documents in every language. I expect Org to make a simple subset of features available consistently. With HTML or Latex you can create those words, and you can insert that code into your Org document. Why does the Org syntax need to be further extended to support this? Part of the reason Org is a nice tool is that it is simple, and we should be cautious trying to make it any more complex. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3