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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619987088; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=3ajjqDSDRY76lOcDp/K+GNhW/6+oRFXWn6t7BIse+P8=; b=dlTuZejdpphamsBfJCaysC1T9ZF0xAdW3a2FQ/wmOVAFtpKvav5v4Z5QN1ABdrKBXpEqqd JS3N6CJdbJQyhcaUgv/ZqSaPIwiZyHJOq0JYAc7h4vnUfr2jkc7IpQ3LB8LP5ppTV5Fysg xH5sonc9jqX8S05du9dloJeBmyrCzoAPHugUodpTeBWL8v+bySgM2kEspbTzaE3qTaSLUi AxJthi7ZYuJLX+zsQp9A5rc3ad1AjFNA0J+zPKTVj2uv2FkKj5ASrY1p1P7sFifa8BP8Ju 5UJ+Ufz5E1OrxhUjiWzB2Ar26FI78AdFEm4VzYXmLznERcBK3wbtl4zAjsLpKg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619987088; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Yr3fpzE3BWxTfCOb1KdkFxpMKERwB+OOlpofmGXlWm4C3cnNJbOUaVh8n+y9+Y55nYpDXS tPTboBRsA9ouMujFbJ6AsRMiPaE+wR7rE4Nle3K+LQjKvpGx2k+egw14KP9KpgiwuHAa0L McrmUuLbvrhKdITbvTyQN9VBFA2ryFage1ktuYDyjSxrgXqsZ5xIDEWeXkyPZVtk6v/Caf cP/x6O8M5/rIgIk4aIadDOPcd8vY9aRy3GGkk4aVfiTUX2r7NKbNyyI0S/IWDpZI+HBY7D FnsDhKqZf6eesOgAG1fmWyz8hA5EFxRDWcqyKASdnHqLzW2TMIkUPmp3SP1shg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.96 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 47AD315713 X-Spam-Score: -0.96 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 1rqbaqKf1FdR * Bastien [2021-05-02 11:57]: > Jean Louis writes: > > >> Indentation is quite sensitive: what do you think of setting a new > >> default value of nil for `org-adapt-indentation' in Org 9.5? > > > > Yes, it should be nil just as it was in beginning. > > I think `org-adapt-indentation' has always been `t' by default. > > > But there is one problem that I encountered since that was introduced, > > namely I do like properties being indented under the first letter of > > heading or on 3rd place. > > > > Like this below, however, C-c C-x p will create properties indented > > only if org-adapt-indentation is t > > > > * Heading > > :PROPERTIES: > > :ARCHIVE: new > > :END: > > > > But if org-adapt-indentation is nil, it will be like: > > > > * Heading > > :PROPERTIES: > > :ARCHIVE: new > > :END: > > I suggest (setq org-adapt-indentation 'headline-data). That achieves opposite effect, but if nobody else complains, I will not mind it. IMHO, when there shall be option like: (setq org-adapt-indentation 'properties-only) where only properties would be indented. It is not same as what headline-data does. As if text begins on beginning of the line, there is visual distinction together with the colon that properties are there. Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ https://rms-support-letter.github.io/