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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default?
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 13:15:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YI/NJnTucE7j2/xZ@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mttcbw22.fsf@gmail.com>

* Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> [2021-05-03 01:39]:
> This is  exactly what headline-data does. I suspect what your running
> into is electric-indent-mode and you need to turn it off to get the
> behaviour you want. So set org-adapt-indentation to hedline-data and
> turn off electric-indent-mode and you will get the indentation style you
> are after.
> 
> The issue here isn't that org-adapt-indentation changed. The issue is
> that the effect of this setting changed when org mode was updated to be
> consistent with the rest of emacs and honour electric-indent-mode, which
> is enabled by default in emacs. Previously, org ignored this wider Emacs
> default setting.

I got it after Bastien explained it.

I am just not sure if right settings should be like this:

(add-hook 'org-mode-hook (lambda () (electric-indent-mode 0)))
(add-hook 'org-mode-hook (lambda () (setq org-adapt-indentation 'heading-data)))

I understand from debate that changed was brought to make it
consistent with Emacs and users have already got habits. IMHO change
was made rather for the sake of computer program as quite number of
people like it different.

> I'm not sure the full impact of enabling electric-indent-mode was
> realised at the time. With org, I think the general principal is to try
> and have defaults set to the 'least surprising' value, particularly for
> new users. 
> -- 
> Tim Cross

That is it.


-- 
Jean

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-02  6:09 [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default? Bastien
2021-05-02  7:13 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02  8:06 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02  8:47   ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02 20:18     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 22:25       ` Tim Cross
2021-05-03  7:41         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 10:15         ` Jean Louis [this message]
2021-05-02  8:56   ` Bastien
2021-05-02  8:59     ` Bastien
2021-05-02 20:24       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:21     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:22     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 10:07 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-05-02 15:01 ` Detlef Steuer
2021-05-02 15:44   ` Colin Baxter
2021-05-02 15:46 ` Amin Bandali
2021-05-02 18:11   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 18:19     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-02 18:48       ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 19:20         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-03 10:11   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-02 18:31 ` Jim Porter
2021-05-02 20:44 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03  7:33   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03  8:06     ` Bastien
2021-05-03 12:53       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 13:40         ` Bastien
2021-05-03 14:57           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-06 14:50       ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-15 20:51         ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:02           ` [PATCH] etc/ORG-NEWS: Suggest against disabling `electric-indent-mode' Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 12:25             ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08           ` [PATCH] org-faq.org: Expand "What is the best setup for indenting?" Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-19 18:06             ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-20 15:57               ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21  2:45                 ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-27 16:11                   ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21  9:38                 ` Bastien
2021-05-20 12:28             ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08           ` [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default? Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-02 21:07 ` Jack Kamm
2021-05-05  7:54 ` Bastien
2021-05-06 14:13   ` Bastien
2021-05-09 16:42     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-15 12:46       ` Bastien

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