From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 0AkuG+laRWBjVQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 22:59:53 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id qCX9FulaRWBDPgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 22:59:53 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DD781A301 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 23:59:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56754 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJ2NK-0003FZ-EA for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 17:59:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49580) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJ2MU-0003FQ-Ib for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 17:58:58 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:59271) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lJ2MS-0007AL-Rf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 17:58:58 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.141.24]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E084.0000000060455AAE.0000374A; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 15:58:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 01:57:43 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: contact management in emacs Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org References: <87lfb9bwff.fsf@m4x.org> <20210228090631.GK25871@maokai> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210228090631.GK25871@maokai> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1615157992; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=83ivqLsGjEkpDTCcOA3bqDbOGvACSiPdby2nNMF+7KA=; b=GiCn2NpzTihsD3sDMkfuu6qQ3RsQ5nH4zupx/Fdh8OyiZs6AzCE7qqOkLHSuJDDy7bpUfq 8yq8OlJlcUFadMWIKvTCOsc3Wg2GKSLZpfbayaRGujKlQeo+MI9C+b7gNYH2BnqWGVh0ZB thJWAOUUcDn6Q4IxFKOyrd7I/8l5k0Ho13gXyh5K+vV2abcqrJCRBeMihcXK0EikPimTFr qumBlAukQnqoEJ8oMAXFBrwgKMtXZxJM1A0OJE/KN78GpTwQA04o5HmY5Pk/JXlyfNmQo4 OtLzpR6orWdG599ypn3buAKPLyKWWmoxUR0fpBvY8LjBihQHRoAqxlmAMaeYQQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1615157992; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kOSi6SWkfj/57XpiSBRWkb+tcfnUAm7SJXIOO7SQH2lGaSmCQszfl9Q+YI3AZ6DClP4biU hRQZ0QIjgHhe8YmnG+QSuLv0jFX3NSCbPo6tceBm5mzlYRJACPK6lO4/c4Uq6sQbOvHrij D1cUfLdN3K3w88kD5vBHW/hasgxKGCJlkAQQbZi8u5aFVeuDn3+h6Z4feqtKAH0yvLPaST HQj06yU4QvI6Vh516QOqckoDJikO0tVTG/9HM0nqKHj8qXSigKwoB0l8pYXnNFavG+3bkZ DYuSVbdUD9NEfoy1/KIisYq0YK0vVRpuMRMKWma+2M+x0yXP5Zq1/Ej5kisIGw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.88 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4DD781A301 X-Spam-Score: -1.88 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: yBKdPiR8takT * Russell Adams [2021-02-28 12:07]: > The only reason I don't use BBDB is I want to use Org to allow me to > maintain notes about contacts (ie: CRM). Yes, I get that I could have > a CRM file and link in BBDB contacts, but that feels like adding > layers. I have replaced using Org file as the central system with the `people` database as the central system. This may sound confusing. Instead of using exclusively Org file, I am using the database and addint notes to people in the database. A note can have any major or minor mode, thus it could be text or Org file or markdown file, enriched mode or restructured text, asciidoc, or similar. My workflow is to find the person first, then press N to see notes, or M-n to create a new note. Concepts I am explaining may serve some people to create their own workflows. Using database for that allows easily collaboration in real time with other team members and inclusion or insertion of new contacts during marketing activities without interruption. Org files are not suitable for such collaborative updates. > The stumbling point for me has been exporting to my mobile phone. I'm > fine with a one way sync from my BBDB/Org solution to the phone, but > I feel like I never found a good option. bbdb-vcard package is here: https://melpa.org/packages/bbdb-vcard-20201016.1902.tar Jean