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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: "Dirk-Jan C. Binnema" <djcb.bulk@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:12:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9AtlV5S1uLaHhzA@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rhs5ghj.fsf@localhost>

* Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> [2023-01-24 14:19]:
> mid: if a known standard, as Max pointed in the earlier message:
> 
> RFC 2392 - Content-ID and Message-ID Uniform Resource Locators. 1998
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2392

It is "proposed standard" and far from any ordinary use.

> It makes more sense than arbitrary ideas not known to anyone, even
> if they sound better for some users.

Not that I can agree as heavy user of e-mails.

mid: -- shall support IMAP, mbox, Maildir, file location in first
place.

Please think of 1998, that is year where majority of people used mbox,
which meaning was that all e-mails were (mostly) in single file. 

And even with that single file, users were to open that file to
request "mid". 

This implies that e-mail program had to know which file to open.

That is missing argument to that proposed standard, practically no
standard at all, laughable to say it is "standard".

mu, notmuch and Thunderbird all use index to search for Message-ID,
including online web clients.

But location is missing part as on user's computer there may be too
many mbox, Maildir files, mh, what else, and messages may be on IMAP
server. 

I cannot provide to myself "mid:" hyperlink without providing location
of Maildir file, if I am to use Mutt as e-mail client or any e-mail
program that does not have indexing built-in.

I have to specify file plus Message-ID.

That would mean something like 

mid:///home/data1/protected/Maildir/yantar92@posteo.net&87mtz84om9.fsf@localhost

because yantar92@posteo.net would be either mbox, Maildir or other
format.

I don't care for useless and never adopted standards from 1998. 

It is 2023.

-- 
Jean

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-24 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <draft-87r0vhxg15.fsf@tosh-laptop.mail-host-address-is-not-set>
2023-01-21 21:32 ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) AW
2023-01-21 22:43   ` Gautier Ponsinet
2023-01-22  4:44   ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-22  8:32     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-22  9:38       ` Jean Louis
2023-01-22 10:36       ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-22 18:47       ` AW
2023-01-23  6:19         ` Jean Louis
2023-01-23 10:40         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-23 13:55           ` AW
2023-01-23 18:28             ` Jean Louis
2023-01-24  9:40             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 10:42               ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2023-01-24 11:17                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 17:08                   ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2023-01-24 19:12                   ` Jean Louis [this message]
2023-01-26 10:01                 ` AW
2023-01-24 19:01               ` Jean Louis
2023-01-28 14:08                 ` [OT] email opens (was: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)) Gregor Zattler
2023-01-28 18:26                   ` tomas
2023-01-29  4:37                   ` Jean Louis
2023-01-26  9:58               ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) AW
2023-01-26 10:16                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 11:43                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-26 12:18                 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-26 18:41                   ` AW
2023-01-23 11:46         ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-23 13:59           ` AW
2023-01-23 14:20             ` AW
2023-01-24  9:44             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 16:11             ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-24 17:32               ` Bruno Barbier
2023-01-25 12:48                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-28  2:36                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-28  8:30                   ` Bruno Barbier
2023-01-28  8:30                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-31 19:56                       ` PATCH for worg about cb_thunderlink (Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)) Bruno Barbier
2023-02-01 16:18                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-01 18:16                           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-02 14:47                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-02  6:04                               ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-03 14:50                                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-03 15:42                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-04  4:59                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-06 11:46                                       ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-07 15:08                                         ` [PATCH] worg/org-faq.org: Recommend cb_thunderlink Thunderbird add-on Max Nikulin
2023-02-07 18:26                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-08 15:45                                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-23 18:37           ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) Jean Louis
2023-01-24 17:22             ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-24 17:49               ` Jean Louis
2023-01-25 15:31                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-25 16:48                   ` This is out of thread subject Jean Louis
2023-01-25 18:01                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26  6:28                       ` Jean Louis
2023-01-27 11:23                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-27 11:51                       ` Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol Max Nikulin
2023-01-29 13:50                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-30  5:48                           ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-30 14:59                             ` [BUG] org-manual: Using bookmarklet for org-capture is no longer reliable (was: Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-31  8:11                               ` [BUG] org-manual: Using bookmarklet for org-capture is no longer reliable Charles Philip Chan
2023-01-31 12:20                                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-01 13:38                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-02 14:09                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-02 14:17                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-02 15:02                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-05  7:43                                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-05 10:26                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-31  1:59                             ` Firefox permission dialog and org-protocol Samuel Wales
2023-01-26 16:19                 ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) Max Nikulin
2023-01-27  6:41                   ` Jean Louis
2023-01-27 15:19                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-29  4:18                       ` Jean Louis
2023-01-29  8:41                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 17:39             ` Bruno Barbier
2023-01-24 17:52               ` Jean Louis
2023-01-25 12:56                 ` [FR] Should Org provide commonly used link types? (was: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-25 16:40                   ` Should Org provide commonly used link types? Jean Louis
2023-01-25 18:15                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26  5:09                       ` Jean Louis
2023-01-26  6:11                       ` Jean Louis
2023-04-26 18:18                     ` jawatech
2023-01-24  9:42           ` Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-24 15:49             ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-24 18:14               ` Jean Louis
2023-01-24 18:03             ` Jean Louis
2023-01-22  7:29   ` Jean Louis
2023-01-27 18:15 ` Bruno Barbier

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