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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1674070592; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=dEVpPaQZn+LDaVtG0EAVqYiaGvnkv2OhQprVkrarP4hlEd9jRWvyzgzsn7z7SAi7CL1V5D TNLF9FKRsaT3dSE4gZw2S2UvJnO+k+VRgfT2CTPSMFV6ina8aDjhCzQnELe9d+VoJzrwDY IkUdlJInumX90UnEeL228spjNfTCV6eNovTrdwYKPox35jy+RFR7JttclL5fr/JQNtlylP c4GJihXMsZ3NU9h64Vb00QkoWqykmKpnI8NFOix622Gtd1VUyXQCTrozKCOAlukW4Q+ZiS lrSqv1/t+c9TPSNBOO1gqu5n15IDOuTSIOnNr5+isv32IJiTcKMIPx/IaJVbKw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1674070592; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=AkPPvqoX6bWUV96haX2DGga8MDAm3QJeJtlzhDDdDoE=; b=I8mePZ/e7nTQidIsOBudu//cbhZukrT8n86BEe+BTcbR48ZryW74wjwiKlsnHFm17zNGWg RTjOSPDmts0ghcKphpdnbZ1N9G4H7G6lNaMsDjFCAzo8Fh7Mf6glcnSdc4n8ZIqFOu1SxW bm/bARrEPs6lECFVHhEnlYrHqLIEKmY5GbiF1fotpXGVxOH4Xb7Q/QSHFobj6HGt/hlZi6 8VaSmfW452H/TnQr9eAryk14qaXQ6oMGVuGhfZV5Bw7xr9v6Egeaww6zC9/yo4JfcoFcL4 iLCee7wfekGNObBuvbhBmZuTOSMSGtAR5n2hPDi/OCgI58K3UpRFA83+1fSlfg== X-Spam-Score: -1.93 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1D52E39C56 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.93 X-TUID: dyL5kvKYKx+7 * Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-18 13:01]: > Max Nikulin writes: > > > ... I am unsure concerning Windows, it may have an option of quite > > similar variant. That is why I am not sure to which degree Org should be > > liberal in respect to various time zones. > > May we just support whatever TZ supports (POSIX)? Yes, not too much. It is impossible. I would say this way, if user does not like Org task management without time zones, go and find other one without Org. Simple. Org does not have foundation where you can even think of complexities discussed here. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/