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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672657826; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ff11z7t6QCHQ7A18jxcoDgXEnaAzmMnQwr94d/HwGh8llFfK+RuvGhq5UnHODL4PjPkpFQ qBS8aBqecO+O7hQC1/aozv444GZHmYh1P0eaQ9YDGzyev5kLN9WwqxX8sEkVLGtIHFQWqB RqSVC0LIDBqd6IMjN+VMc9gWuIN4JQiL8rUirkt4/QaWQL5HcBJQGkPRBbr7nkqa4e/qrU qBVskiZfqe3Q4ORtdnd3IBLHTMI8ZvpLPnmuLEg2deFTI11V12+AuR4yqtDrYahp7z8HSb kL4tjbFAKvY31zZbTSLJXfX1pv4bED9p4sOcsxu0E21oDTAWJoF2jPZjqumNSg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672657826; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=n817HFB/56y0zquLsDBhmVTqKV33UdlICvA9UWYiR88=; b=gzokkxb5M61bEeSRn2EM08eS1K8dyCZe3sdwDXQ2wfv9Z4kjvuJHrZLUt3iYE+T+P/GLtd 3xb49ImKWLDUQWDWG8xrp0l5m/rGyh6/EFLOtc+s2+MJZoqACXMJE4RFU7hlIeITzTv7TU 1R6GbhZuSfBQYAgdoZP3zLBwJ93BElojWioBr2x4QV+ZxjAAmR4ahhl0HeJKg0XxgdEIqB 42fGPMZKml17n8pT1iViSggGn1J9jhW0aYvwj3HJKGwGcidGr9TrGZ5G7RIvXJOW9G6iKJ Bz47HTjQcV6TAW7lhEPHX9LHToC5OOk8PQV4e7iocce4oaCTg8MhqGrjYgEIIQ== X-Spam-Score: -3.95 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 165CFD510 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.95 X-TUID: tquiXRuf54xy I was reading about Orgdown, Karl, please keep the name, and don't mind the group. * Eduardo Ochs [2023-01-02 09:01]: > (3) _is_ my experience with the Org mailing list. > > What I meant by "the developers like your questions" was roughly: > "recognizing that that person deserves help, and giving him tools that > would let him solve his problems in hours instead of in months or > years". > > For example, in this thread > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-12/msg00674.html > > no one considered that if I was asking that then maybe it would be a > good idea to make `org-export-dispatch' more hackeable by > beginners... By the way, I have idea to make Org Export in 3 different ways more, one that is very hackable and introspective and one that can be edited as plain text file how users wish and want, then they can reuse the file to have their menu. Imagine. > For example, someone could have said "can you try this? Copy that > function to other file, replace its lines foo and bar by the lines > plic and bletch, and use the ideas in these two blog posts to debug > and inspect its data structures"... but no, that didn't happen - I've > asked lots of technical questions here over the years and never got > detailed answers like that, only answers whose technical details _were > kept as short as possible_, and whose explanations were much closer to > "in English" than to "in Lisp". The Org manual is there with pointers. Let me know links to your questions, maybe we find some more pointers to it. > A few days ago I added subtitles to my video about "Org for > Non-Users". The links are here, > > http://angg.twu.net/2021-org-for-non-users.html Where is the eev file of the page? -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/