From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id KIYULrOEnGMwSwAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:46:11 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id 2HsKLrOEnGMGPQEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:46:11 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23D53A291 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:46:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Bxh-0001Wo-GG; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:45:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Bxf-0001WJ-7Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:45:19 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Bxd-00078X-Av for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:45:18 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.4.25]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055DB2.00000000639C847E.00002D06; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 07:45:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:44:41 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Sterling Hooten , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Completely hide properties drawer in 9.6 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Ihor Radchenko , Sterling Hooten , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org References: <4CC6A1F4-0B08-44E0-AE4D-60CA11636663@gmail.com> <87ilibsha7.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ilibsha7.fsf@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Numerous people will express numerous directions on how specific problem may be solved. Take the life as it is. I don't appreciate this kind of slap and wining about nothing! * Ihor Radchenko [2022-12-16 14:46]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > * Sterling Hooten [2022-12-14 08:39]: > >> I'm trying to clone Lotus notes in Org mode. > > > > What features do you try to implement? > > > > Or are you trying to import your own notes into the Org? > > > > Org does not have functions of sharing, while it could have, > > it doesn't, it is not considered important. > > .... > > Jean, while I understand that Org does not completely fit your usage > patterns, please do not assume that every other user who appears to be > needing somewhat similar functionality also needs all other things you > are using. > > This message is first asking if a user needs something and then goes > ahead as if the answer was "yes". > > Honestly, it sounds more like advertisement for Hyperscope rather than an > attempt to help a particular user in particular question discussed in > particular thread. Especially for long term Org mailing list subscribers > who did see your other similar messages. > > Please consider staying closer to the actual topic in the thread. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/