From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id aDynDjyOUGNOogAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 01:54:36 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id qNtuDTyOUGORcgEAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 01:54:36 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1299FA19 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 01:54:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60442 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olItN-0007nk-Dx for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:54:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olIsl-0007nY-VR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:53:55 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:51455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olIsk-0004g3-61 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2022 19:53:55 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.40.195]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D5E.0000000063508E10.00001A0F; Wed, 19 Oct 2022 16:53:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 02:46:02 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Max Nikulin Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Best android app Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Max Nikulin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org References: <6ce1e2e6-3d21-4ee0-9e3c-80f424984a60@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666223675; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=pdT5BLPvrk7wfOHCJicu6fekqBjR71blugwvk0hSmYQ=; b=g9fJBhsfhH8We2E7u/+G+lRR/hHmLs0tzhIgtL09JGxRTEATF+JhFJZ2dQOaQdZVgbFjui aSH/WfNoG0pr2c4vjarFp6nf3GXdRFZvpMkwGXzmy3zVH6NAP7OwPGqM1tMInd1+p+89+o iE0MI5TGrHSkH5QRKG5gEgwbZsamjGAws6hAk/7Xz05KV143oI0QjoZIzfJErR6FfcXOP9 JhhtfQfHpgtAHa1dmhI30rdecS5BfnPZd3nWKLiCYaezhGJU8BQUbGtHxCIkZKlXRG3KX+ x3a8qfRAnlAJqDPv7TsPu9+mVASvhX7rVhD+Wb6FCYfJaOIvwbBwj1wGH73pkw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666223675; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=lgdHy0o09qeYNGEYGZZFumPMSp7RhpvNx69fSKR0eBjCQB/R2PlKccHikKyk5/0zoZHD1i zxaS6rSz3mHiLD41s4jZzscLcHvMxsdsBqehSg+HyKTrq9ZE5TrhiVwq7IU57c/gNvwIFs 2OLuJffv1xMv/O3KxIZefgSjrKKKS2GOVq2e0aYi2iTdZwRaNiH/+CbsgCvrH1ox1S2TSr 4ljXYpljfhckvebxvGLxUbcsPSNix40+jRrKeGVZl5YF1NKSTo8PVY5bGieqCXYOIXM0vF 9WZubqroppn5vxBfilS3nMBSrZtwxFjfhs8vh83AVCkbVPYtwlrEnBKLiVyLrg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.72 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D1299FA19 X-Spam-Score: -0.72 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: yX6AVWqzD5T0 * Max Nikulin [2022-10-19 15:53]: > Better balanced position is necessary otherwise it would be just weakness in > communication with people who do not care if some software is free. Then such people have the chance to learn what is free software. Their weakness is not to know what it is. > > I find it unfortunate that some people create proprietary software > > that uses Org files. > > It sounds like you regret about absence of a kind of vendor lock. File > formats and communication protocols must be free. There are enough examples > when free software can not be developed due to lack of specifications. Why > would you expect cooperation from vendors if you wish to have fences at your > side in similar cases? Vendor: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Vendor You have misunderstood the idea. I have never mentioned "absence of a kind of vendor lock" or similar. So let us close that discussion and keep creating free software. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/