From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id sPmrJ6dbTWPZSwEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:41:59 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id AAS2J6dbTWMDNAEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:41:59 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DD70903D for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:41:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:49622 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okQNQ-000768-JS for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:41:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39480) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okQKF-00072a-4G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:38:39 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:36497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okQKB-00059Y-JF; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:38:37 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.87.19.13]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055DA2.00000000634D5ADA.00002B03; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:38:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 16:38:12 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: Max Nikulin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Richard Stallman Subject: Re: Best android app Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Ihor Radchenko , Max Nikulin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Richard Stallman References: <6ce1e2e6-3d21-4ee0-9e3c-80f424984a60@gmail.com> <875ygipp0l.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <875ygipp0l.fsf@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.7+37 (a90f69b) (2022-09-02) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666014119; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=xK5uUC2QeUG0OC2v0g+97iPVz3X0UbsIpyJx/vhxUcM=; b=L465x9shNjW5ffURbIQJ5h1wpkdh6rlaK2mpvxEEtGH7tSnE9n7Qg2C2NKpnvjNQKC6jnD fLQ/UsNSfb6wQspn1+nCxP4CyW0f8u28MUZ5gXdHru2jqY7lCD6Q2qPtLDtuAZxagkHpds ZrycZa6E7oVoPOPxOxq+nCsLwJ1+rCWtdYsWeGeLsUAxi+B018em1mLHqcP6RabYm2bf5X haoZmVJ8GZHAwlnCzhPI1J/ZchyAhUxKFI1wFhXvwIy8RRk58UYpTK+QqthVy8mPTYjg7i DRPLVHzBYZ4lUGubv6V2KZm09Ujn/AFkY3D4nsfVhCORhfmSr3rFAnLcMGbYFg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666014119; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XHuWvxLL4NCZZHx2AeX3WIWI3KNZb7e/RsT3ZouTQ+OP7xr7/fIMBqr1x51lM1GWJ3/Dbt 2v/yGh/U8OKDflFTcDXhrinJwTl4OV6rZ2yPhvgIev3jC86kjGOyAma3CUiARSs/uOiLPa CNKczZ0nm/9KjvcrBkdg7st0nzlawssbr1YpGJMfQYA++e4E2jEsMnIqiG337PAG51QDK1 D6wMP41P1Mu7amcSBOtUBmmvHCk1IIGWv7immswWSPJnisXLVOVgwecBTZWsaR9gbmOkjU RH/C3s7V/8TSVfCi1c89fU7L3LrgXMEA+8nL801LdKCcFz+cWqQJ2Jwz6t0S8g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.52 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0DD70903D X-Spam-Score: -3.52 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: yCXk78Dydf8f * Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-17 16:18]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > However, IMHO and according to principles of free software, such as > > not to steer users towards non-free software, then no links to > > proprietary software shall be added from Org website pages, as Org is > > part of Emacs which is part of GNU fully free operating system > > distributions. > > WORG is not the Org website. WORG is the community website. > We deliberately use less strict rules to encourage contributions to > WORG. I am sorry, but in the subject above mentioned by me, what exactly do you find so strict? Is it the fact not to reference to free sofware? >From my side, I do not mind how some people categorize their website, IMHO orgmode.org is one website for me, you may have many categories and many pages, and categories and pages may be managed by X number of people. Because it is on the same domain, I do not think that one should reference proprietary software from WORG pages, and justify it by saying how it is category "you name it", because Org is part of GNU free software project. Imagine if GNU.org domain would have category where they reference non-free software applications comparing them as good or bad one. That would not fly. But GNU.org website may mention some proprietary software, and will not give references to such (not that I know). In that spirit shall be every GNU software. I present my opinion only. Not the opinion of GNU project. > The Org website is only https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgweb which is > strictly abiding the FSF rules. GNU and FSF are not same. I speak of GNU. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/