From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id sJdcKa/D4mNrUgAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 22:33:35 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id GKpkKa/D4mP4pgAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 22:33:35 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 268AA3EE89 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 22:33:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPVZv-0001PQ-16; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:32:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPVZt-0001P4-HS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:32:37 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPVZr-0005qJ-U6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:32:37 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.15.228]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000103950.0000000063E2C376.00004193; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 14:32:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 21:57:27 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Ihor Radchenko , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Bastien Guerry Subject: Re: [BUG] list.orgmode.org managed to parse a message in future: 2023-10-29 [9.6.1 (release_9.6.1-223-gc8d20d @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Ihor Radchenko , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Bastien Guerry References: <87pmarnhlr.fsf@localhost> <2526494.1675622464@archlinux> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2526494.1675622464@archlinux> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 14 X-Spam_score: 1.4 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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(i mean, i guess if the person > stands on their head and swears up and down that they mean to do it, `mutt' is program that receives date from system date. Nothing wrong with it alone. You cannot blame computer program for doing what is instructed. Programs know the time we gave to them. A server for mailing list is much more important program than single MUA. Mailing list solves communication of many people. Such computer is always online and can easily synchronize time with Internet servers. In my opinion central computer that manages mailing lists should recogniz if time of users is far in future and handle it appropriately. Maybe re-writing time with explanation in e-mail header would be more appropriate. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/