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From: Laurenz Wiskott <laurenz.wiskott@rub.de>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: new org mode, changed folding behavior could be improved / more consistent
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 21:08:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+FeMGGZiLqaPxLO@curry> (raw)

Hi,

org mode has apparently been rewritten somehow.  At least I noticed a few differences
after updating to the new Debian version.  For instance, it got much faster.  GREAT!

There is one feature however that I really miss: It used to be that I could add an entry
with a certain number of stars in the first line, and then 'org-global-cycle' using S-TAB
would allow to make all the headlines visible only up to that many stars.  For instance,
a file with


*** -
* 1
  Text 1
** 2
   Text 2
*** 3
    Text 3
**** 4
     Text 4

after one or two S-TAB (depending on the initial folding state) would look like

*** -
* 1
** 2
*** 3

without the 4-star headline visible.  If I remove one star in the first line and type
S-TAB once or twice, then it looks like

** -
* 1
** 2

I found that a convenient way of controlling the depth of the CONTENT view (I believe it
is called).  That does not work any more.  Typing S-TAB once or twice leads to the
CONTENTS view that shows all headlines, no matter how many stars and independently of the
first line.

I have read that I can get the desired behavior with a numerical argument.  So, I have a
work around.  GREAT!

However, I find it inconsistent, that 'org-global-cycle' and 'org-cycle' work
differently.  The latter shows the old behavior (GREAT!), but can apparently not be
controlled directly with a numerical argument, while for the former it is the other way
around.

I suggest, to enable the trick with the first line for both 'org-global-cycle' and
'org-cycle' and to also enable overwriting this with a numerical argument.

Here is an example for 'org-cycle'

* 1
*** -
** A
*** Aa
    Text
** B
*** Ba
**** Ba1
     Text

Typing TAB once or twice (depending on the initial folding state) on the main headline (*
1) yields the view:

* 1
*** -
** A
*** Aa
** B
*** Ba

If I remove one star in the second line (*** -), typing TAB yields

* 1
** -
** A
** B

So, that still works.  But a numerical argument has no effect.  However, I found that C-c
TAB (org-show-children) does this, but why not just numerical argument plus TAB, like for
S-TAB?

Anyhow, I am extremely grateful for the org-mode and I use it daily.  Thanks a lot.

Best,

Laurenz Wiskott.


             reply	other threads:[~2023-02-07 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-06 20:08 Laurenz Wiskott [this message]
2023-02-06 20:44 ` new org mode, changed folding behavior could be improved / more consistent Laurenz Wiskott
2023-02-08 11:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]   ` <Y+OR/4eRUdrSJQ6P@curry>
     [not found]     ` <874jrvccwo.fsf@localhost>
     [not found]       ` <Y+USPxfpI4FXeNuX@curry>
2023-02-10 11:03         ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]           ` <Y+i5i7oQ8BdSfBmk@curry>
2023-02-13 15:02             ` [FR] Use empty ***** heading to indicate folding depth in org-cycle for a subtree (was: new org mode, changed folding behavior could be improved / more consistent) Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-29 13:00   ` new org mode, changed folding behavior could be improved / more consistent Ihor Radchenko

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