From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id e6roEER71l/RVwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 20:36:20 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id INkJDER71l+gfwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 20:36:20 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5049402A2 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 20:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46754 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koY6M-0000yq-LE for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:36:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koY26-0003Yb-BA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:31:54 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:53781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koY21-0000bT-BJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:31:54 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.34.185]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000308F9.000000005FD67A33.00005E65; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 13:31:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:31:33 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Christopher Dimech Subject: Re: Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files Message-ID: References: <87eejyedba.fsf@localhost> <87zh2i5y4t.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Maxim Nikulin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AB5049402A2 X-Spam-Score: -0.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: KVLwAiK0HSLh * Christopher Dimech [2020-12-13 21:02]: > > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:13 PM > > From: "Jean Louis" > > To: "Ihor Radchenko" > > Cc: "Maxim Nikulin" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files > > > > * Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-13 03:45]: > > > Jean Louis writes: > > > > > > > While it is easy to teach people to open single program, press a key, > > > > and insert title, it is harder and time consuming to teach random > > > > people how to use Emacs. This may not be true, it is just my current > > > > impression. > > > > > > I guess one would not need to teach people about everything in Emacs. If > > > the aim is just editing and viewing PDF, one can provide custom Emacs > > > configuration with added toolbars and menu items for common operations > > > with pdf. I do not see why it would be any different from specialised > > > pdf viewers. > > > > To see that assign Emacs tutorial to several people and observe > > results. I do. > > It gets hard and you can see them sweating. Quite contrary, they go through tutorial and learn whati is in tutorial. But it will take few hours, one day. Then it needs habit. Easier is to click and click n for next and p for previous. Once you find reference click F5 and describe the item. That is easier than teaching people Emacs. Then group of people can capture PDF references quite efficiently. Jean