From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id +AtJDV3LxF+cCgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:37:17 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id cNITCV3LxF+JWgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:37:17 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7EFC9404C8 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55574 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjgYV-0002C8-CO for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:37:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjgXk-0002Ai-PW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:36:28 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:49187) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjgXj-0006yf-7V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:36:28 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.47]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C000E.000000005FC4CB0A.000050D4; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:35:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 08:42:32 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: daniela-spit@gmx.it Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options Message-ID: References: <837dq4mcb1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -2 X-Spam_score: -0.3 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: gyro funch , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.78 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: gqlhn7W9+PDj > > From: "gyro funch" > > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options > > If I'm not mistaken, all of the development is done by volunteers. > > > > Perhaps you could help resolve your issue instead of asking other > > people, who are likely already overworked, to shoulder the burden. Those overworked, to shoulder the burden people need not answer any issue. They are volunteers, so they need not answer. There will be those who may answer. Process I see there is: - please report the bug! You are welcome - user reports the bug - why you reported the bug here? Report somewhere else. - user asks where to report the bug and wonders why that routing - user does report the bug to other place - user is told not to ask other people While all that has deeper meanings for one set of people and one may understand it, there will be those pissed off who cannot understand what is happening. Please look at processes going on, analyze processes and what those processes are not well designed when we have Emacs with programming language to route users accordingly. In the end neither developers will get insights from users about potential bugs neither users will resolve the issue. Final question is if problem with org-agenda-files got resolved?