From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id yCFrALmcv1+gWAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:16:57 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id ePzQN7icv1+qOQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:16:56 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9E4A9404D3 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53474 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiGCj-0006OE-2Q for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:16:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiGBM-0006Km-7I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:15:28 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:39367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiGBJ-0004iA-SB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:15:27 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.56]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0006.000000005FBF9C5B.00004B5C; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:15:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:06:00 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Detlef Steuer Subject: Re: Local variables insecurities - Re: One vs many directories Message-ID: References: <87eekhd1sq.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87a6v5bkss.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87pn416ttu.fsf@gmail.com> <20201126124440.788906a8@linux-h0yu.fritz.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20201126124440.788906a8@linux-h0yu.fritz.box> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Tom Gillespie , Tim Cross , emacs-orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: inc X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.99 X-TUID: bPgmiPf5ldT7 * Detlef Steuer [2020-11-26 14:46]: > Am Thu, 26 Nov 2020 08:31:29 +0300 > schrieb Jean Louis : > > > That is not fair choice. It pushes user to finally ! apply and accept > > it, but does not give chance to permanently ignore it. > > > > > > Do you want to apply it? You can type > > y -- to apply the local variables list. > > n -- to ignore the local variables list. > > ! -- to apply the local variables list, and permanently mark these > > values (*) as safe (in the future, they will be set > > automatically.) > > Well, if you are arguing for a user who chose to use emacs, configured > mutt to invoke emacs etc I do not. Any file opened any how by Emacs is invoking those variables. Please send your opinions to bug: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=44837 by writing to: 44837@debbugs.gnu.org > .but at the same time has no idea he chose a > mighty tool, as in has no clue about programming, variables etc., That is right, I have given references. Do not expect users who obtain Emacs editor to be programmers. When user is asked anything, it should be self-documenting and it should have references to that documentation. That is why majority of actions with Emacs do have ? for help at least. Invoking unsafe variables does not even involve any help or references to manual. > then > this choice won't help neither. If you have no idea about local > variables, you can not make an informed decision about *anything* > involving the concept of local variables. Besides stopping and reading > the manual. That is right, but that will be picked by those better positioned few.