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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , William Rankin Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=live.com header.s=selector1 header.b=e2WSYgY6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=live.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.71 X-TUID: sNHPbwOTZZIo --_000_VI1PR06MB4526F962D95F9BCC94F113C596380VI1PR06MB4526eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not long time ago I posted a bug report about superscripts and subscripts n= ot rendered when in-between italics markings, '/'. I would definitely like = to see that code, and rest for prettie-fying entities factored out into a = minor mode that can be activated in any Emacs buffer. What do you think, is it to much work and where can you point out (just gen= erally) where to look in the source for the code responsible for that? -------- Originalmeddelande -------- Fr=E5n: Bastien Datum: 2020-09-23 10:21 (GMT+01:00) Till: "William Rankin via General discussions about Org-mode." Kopia: William Rankin , emacs-devel@gnu.org =C4mne: Re: Re Org 9.4 is out. Can you help? // breaking apart Org Mode Hi William, thanks a lot for bringing this up. Of course, Org would benefit from code cleanup and code refactoring. And yes, we can collectively push toward (1) modularizing Org a little more, (2) making Org features better interact with Emacs core features and (3) integrating some of Org's features into Emacs core as Emacs features. IMHO the good examples you give fall into one of the category above, and I think such efforts are likely to happen in that order: 1, 2, 3. The better way to make this happen is to start a discussion with a patch explaining how it makes 1, 2 or 3, then discussing the patch here on this list - the smaller the better. If you cannot make a patch, first discuss your idea, and once the implementation seems clear, call for help by using a mail header: X-Woof-Help: Help with making X a new module Thanks, -- Bastien --_000_VI1PR06MB4526F962D95F9BCC94F113C596380VI1PR06MB4526eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not long time ago I posted a bug report about superscript= s and subscripts not rendered when in-between italics markings, '/'. I woul= d definitely like to see that code, and rest for  prettie-fying entiti= es factored out into a minor mode that can be activated in any Emacs  buffer. 

What do you think, is it to much work and where can you p= oint out (just generally) where to look in the source for the code responsi= ble for that?



-------- Originalmeddelande --------
Fr=E5n: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
Datum: 2020-09-23 10:21 (GMT+01:00)
Till: "William Rankin via General discussions about Org-mode.&quo= t; <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Kopia: William Rankin <william@bydasein.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.or= g
=C4mne: Re: Re Org 9.4 is out. Can you help? // breaking apart Org Mod= e

Hi William,

thanks a lot for bringing this up.

Of course, Org would benefit from code cleanup and code refactoring.

And yes, we can collectively push toward (1) modularizing Org a little
more, (2) making Org features better interact with Emacs core features
and (3) integrating some of Org's features into Emacs core as Emacs
features.

IMHO the good examples you give fall into one of the category above,
and I think such efforts are likely to happen in that order: 1, 2, 3.

The better way to make this happen is to start a discussion with a
patch explaining how it makes 1, 2 or 3, then discussing the patch
here on this list - the smaller the better.

If you cannot make a patch, first discuss your idea, and once the
implementation seems clear, call for help by using a mail header:

  X-Woof-Help: Help with making X a new module

Thanks,

--
 Bastien

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