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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Sebastian Miele , Nicolas Goaziou Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622072622; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=1+6ktCvzF7qFS9oyO8qoI4hTKB+F2sACxh7/p9fqorM=; b=RTm3U+6Q2b/G6QU9Q3BTT8pocIa2NuEVGDHEqSppDONLVU3u+F62oFcf+Brufr8r0A8XZd WB/0xkRzbXESLa3N29YgjkX0mE4MCEIRGKfiwYjLyx+5Txyxvnxx1mng84eiFopk5LFPGn Os2TB9yeh3se1Ke0EKXQICYOn7BU+BuHqClCk2dY0Uuq3St+rbbikYGkbshV+lDpuNnea2 0EC4EOJZRZFczGHvlMEUzx5n5mwHWLRHBofx8Asv5ysqxrr8fyZLjq9ZT3hMrkfBPJQ5Zi V96PzKVlRoyF2CTBOTD8vTW70AmEMU2NOF3Yi/01GcnQBX5tk7zfrWgODjCa5A== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622072622; a=rsa-sha256; cv=pass; b=iPlVMl3SYZSlCcAZhs81WUNhriloCfJIPxEoHMMMDn86kwneHkxFR+lrymKk0YoNP7O939 6S0RR4OXHFSenT6mNPJszYnpNFpCTICxNl+D7IKLyIVee/sTEm63PzNgr2UOQlpKWiXKe8 P4dPN4xxBmI1vnSc6DtDTuzH6LuPPD2N3iCwh28vWN6rsuf01gayAaeYd8jhoB/+SmFHML 6lm7JybH9FhMoQIe7my5aotRMImlzGko03lLqudARko0QjaJIaf/tQlCUCA06wTbE+jiKv D2yTUPvahiO94IEN9vSpde5XIWYr+416KxOUiJSN3UA4+tpJkKIPY9XjMG2s0w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=outlook.com header.s=selector1 header.b=LcNZ2vpc; arc=pass ("microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1"); dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=outlook.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=outlook.com header.s=selector1 header.b=LcNZ2vpc; arc=pass ("microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1"); dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=outlook.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5495316DA6 X-Spam-Score: -0.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /UQZeKKXOPGK Ihor Radchenko writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> Currently, what Org does in this situation is unimportant, because the >> behaviour is simply undefined, which is, IMO, tolerable. If we decide to >> define it, it needs to be documented. > > I agree that currently there is no urgent need to decide on this, but > there (hopefully) will be in the future. > > I am trying to implement storage of heading elements in > org-element-cache and reusing them later in org.el functions when > getting tags, properties, schedules, etc. This, among other things, > requires consistency between org.el and org-element.el when parsing > headlines. Could an extensible pre-hook that runs a list of functions take care of the inconsistencies where each function recognizes one change to the standard grammar and adjusts the input accordingly? -- David Masterson