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From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
To: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>,  emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Autoload `org-assert-version' and remove org-loaddefs.el
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2022 19:54:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR03MB54557D62CB2D09FC56027239A21B9@SJ0PR03MB5455.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k039glwb.fsf@kyleam.com> (Kyle Meyer's message of "Fri, 02 Dec 2022 23:18:44 -0500")

Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:

> Bastien writes:
>
>> Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:
> [...]
>
>>> Every spot that calls org-assert-version is preceded by a line that
>>> requires org-macs, so isn't this error likely due to a mixed
>>> installation/load-path issue where the wrong/older org-macs is taking
>>> precedence?
>>
>> Yes: I thought `org-assert-version' job was to help catching mixed
>> installations, so my reasoning was that, even when an old org-macs
>> version has been loaded, autoloading `org-assert-version' would help
>> report about mixed installation.
>
> I see.  So your goal isn't to resolve any errors due to mixed
> installation but instead to get the more informative error message from
> org-assert-version?
>
> I don't think autoloading will help because it will look in the
> org-macs file at the front of the load-path, and, in the bad case, that
> does not have the org-assert-version definition.

Question: which end of load-path is "front" if you look at load-path via
describe-variable?  It's been far too long since my days of Elisp
hacking.

Another typical use case is Org bundled with Emacs and you want to
install a later version of Org via package-install.

>> That said, do you have any idea how to fix the bug people encounter
>> when installing Org from ELPA and being bitten by "invalid-function
>> org-assert-version"?
>
> Sorry, I don't.  Given a mixed installation where the org-macs at the
> front of load-path does _not_ have org-assert-version, I don't see a way
> to catch that.  Not helpful at the moment, but I suppose the situation
> improves with time as Org versions that do not have org-assert-version
> become less abundant.

Is Org the only thing that will call 'org-assert-version'? Then assume
that a pre-built version of Emacs/Org is self-consistent.  Then
(perhaps?) patch an early spot in Org-9.6 to do:

      (if (and (featurep 'org) (< org-version 9.6))
          (unload-feature 'org))

-- 
David Masterson


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-06  3:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-01  7:26 [PATCH] Autoload `org-assert-version' and remove org-loaddefs.el Bastien
2022-12-02  3:38 ` Kyle Meyer
2022-12-02  7:44   ` Bastien
2022-12-03  4:18     ` Kyle Meyer
2022-12-06  3:54       ` David Masterson [this message]
2022-12-06  5:44         ` tomas
2022-12-06  7:13           ` David Masterson
2022-12-07 11:43     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-07 14:08       ` Max Nikulin
2023-03-29 13:38     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-29 16:04       ` Max Nikulin
2023-03-29 16:52         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01 14:44           ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-02  8:35             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-02 15:59               ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-02 16:44                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-04 12:08                   ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-04 13:29                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-05 11:41                       ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-08 16:47           ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-09  8:29             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-10  6:13               ` Max Nikulin
2023-04-10 16:58                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-04 10:58                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-12-06  3:00   ` David Masterson

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