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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Reply-to: fatiparty@tutanota.com From: fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1642105100; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=lJ++fngHWZB5HiThGBuQWgqKojruhmcdyXRGRK+AVzw=; b=NlSdMnw3r6vXKhdhSKV1YT9XiEJ7jjXXCWK/kxcG0JP+LJLtAD0XZludrFeOB8h16Fy01O 84DyW7C4WoROBwLbch0BxwBUtq/yM0W9zRjjrEdrVuMxBvtDFGSeipVb7YdE3kRpqkWqM8 9QiFZqyukXCqBG9YcQ9N8RF8Hcb3LkTGl9kbdP1wtBe5+f/HQG48wjvoU9RahPf4EM/17a VzkOo9Rwf7hwqf81V1Vt3CTl2+hAHS709BqbIjpXUSjoB6nBK+NrNTYA2QERZxSo/7vEFE xjZQI+9tpicO7Nscbp7MTPkr6x6jueWxq3MCIiNNb/qnKOUITY8YW/sf/gkwQQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1642105100; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=uk5+Xb/3NPAuFBEpIJ5dW4BQv5P0UiT+HsihLjzRpblN8iLPT2cppgx55duu67fTVlwNl/ rwfX/6qhu7dRCWdLunv75Ql2zh1mRPHZ+IebAyxbDuYfo+Knq/jAZjbCt25F6a7hMQwS0v 4AnN56+vlNE5wkCdAnbak7BYIbOsuItWHj6X3/5xwQtWijpDIidslhbOiAhmnmPdqTSEql 6XVfqueHst8zljgmb0I5WQ2NaudqRPLLu6Bn06N5zrnL14ZAtRCjinNkC4DNb/8M1BKTFf CfkYJvlAZCO3nonQ9a5tSzXzUZCh3VeytzIkxjQ9uZVQ/ef9thvUm1ONf0mBHA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tutanota.com header.s=s1 header.b=mIASyhkt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.42 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tutanota.com header.s=s1 header.b=mIASyhkt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 24FF621113 X-Spam-Score: -4.42 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: QFjweXV74DOJ Jan 14, 2022, 07:42 by maciaschain@posteo.net: > fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > >> _a geographical region that corresponds to present-day Israel and Palest= ine_ >> I have used the _ for underlining.=C2=A0 This could hove been misleading, b= ecause I do not want normal text within the underlined part.=C2=A0 It is an example of emphasizi= ng using _=20 It would be great if there was something else that instead of emphasizing t= he text compared to normal, the part is downplayed.=C2=A0 I am currently using _ bet changin= g the colour to be faint. But this is not a long term solution. > In any case, from a strictly (ortho)typographical point of view this is a > matter of nesting emphasis. If what you want to do is highlight a word > within another emphasis (an underline), the correct typographical > procedure is to italicize or bold that word: > > _a /geographical/ region that corresponds to present-day Israel and > Palestine_ > > =3D=3D> > > \uline{a \emph{geographical} region that corresponds to present-day > Israel and Palestine} > > What you can't do in Org is nest emphases of the same order: > > #+begin_example > /The translators of the /Odyssey/ in the Hispanic tradiction/ > #+end_example > > It does not produce in LaTeX: > > #+begin_src latex > \emph{The translators of the \emph{Odyssey} in the Hispanic tradiction} > #+end_src > > It is not a matter of a passage being de-emphasized (it doesn't work > that way), but rather that it is emphasized within another emphasis > text. In the above case, the way to emphasize Odyssey in a text already > emphasized in italics is with a normal font or with an underline (the > correct thing is with a normal font). > > There are two separate questions here: how that is represented in Org > and how it should be exported. >