From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:303:e16b::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms13.migadu.com with LMTPS id QFe6F04JlGY+JgAAe85BDQ:P1 (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 17:22:22 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:303:e16b::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2.migadu.com with LMTPS id QFe6F04JlGY+JgAAe85BDQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 19:22:22 +0200 X-Envelope-To: larch@yhetil.org Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=outlook.com header.s=selector1 header.b=Y4pZ71a+; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); arc=pass ("microsoft.com:s=arcselector10001:i=1") ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1720977742; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=yOFYfAoOchJPObpl7OBdc3NuRy6SrNlbwSu7MPKrdDU=; b=RC1JgnPSfYyxkjKVEoOMsoQ/SQcsye7Maw6UjNaYggKPQYIVPZfsrdhK9/Iy+P7BbMDfVT qUJXdjGFnrRtxnCp7aeXdoXgUlzqElCBa2eKwQr1zayOTBFJEtX/yDV8A1PPiNB3Mp4OMd cimIVkn5FpBydYgYedku8jC0AiABDp2q/7k1PqOEluJjGewOXriyXP60o7NRXgqRh8x2AF ev6Zmn1uwBMbdsoT8wAeVHWh7O0wvuvLc5v5a8+VoikxC8fTRXFW6RVEPSuQwAw4D6E1CQ ES96m21aWYXM5o3KiT1tOLNVaXetNOhgNC/ZpBJdccHmx/250QafKQd3Sq/2/Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=outlook.com header.s=selector1 header.b=Y4pZ71a+; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); arc=pass ("microsoft.com:s=arcselector10001:i=1") ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1720977742; a=rsa-sha256; cv=pass; b=QFBT6H8jLy9qgPUtgGdpW4cWa2xwM86zogAgk0bEbofJ6SNcwyWQwb8MtmNVVb1rq35DW9 D9I1uY38z5/YHgBhG54j/6L2pPMaLJwAYvonzDaX4P3Lnd35hmk1R0KfLKePz7JeJEDW4Q C5MdlGVQiS31Wlv4VmivQ7zFIJUT/QNbPUGtPaxGcBrMBe7RlwdCkOiKGJg5dgEVUqtQ0b JCoHkVJJR0vnxTQiO9NnyMM7WKE43mebdeJnwAoWE20k2NfqKw/07L3GV9Jf1IUnOuPP4F XqYp3Zin5IKh6iQyFVyPgR86WBnPcg1qgOQORfgqcvjOhSANyY0hUN+TEOJQbw== Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D447939C6D for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 19:22:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sT2uc-0006g3-Ni; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:21:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sT2ua-0006fm-Cv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:21:24 -0400 Received: from mail-dm6nam10olkn2022.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([40.92.41.22] helo=NAM10-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sT2uY-0004VK-CW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:21:24 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector10001; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=CXQodcu6OrPUO1vxZfDZZnWxeZsViVKUQeCBR988/htVkaAW6wVnypVd209tSjZZErfTePIHJ1wMORUsl0JnS+L8fQHU+5TEg0V2PwLSDAOHZka/sLC3EMRwTbcycmuVkw+yBoMQQPtZhkWMbSxIx03+lnkJC092n0oVUS1jJ5MnJRslk9Q2QQYmbARBZ0EZ7Gk58piXXAwZw9iXjYWs7Vp4xpEkRHmsCmpJ8N7pOXqn1jzPGZ6qA/H1Ui4IytsFxiYz17U6G66Pd1fw3pzW7+igQxO8Jt+0QdjDa2XbLu27JIXEeGkiNdJpxgqREC8bg5XQjklgl44donEbx+T1pQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector10001; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=yOFYfAoOchJPObpl7OBdc3NuRy6SrNlbwSu7MPKrdDU=; b=UdVbduOtq71JGVCS7J3Uzjtt6ev9TfkS2f258rcUvw8SeRTc188gQRk62JB3e7ftcgAilvwQzx9Z1qV9xcwL54qN9EovEXZiuRZml0AAqASLI+h626tI7T5aG0QAGXi7SrQyieeRmQd8U5IVRGhWS8QvoCMV3LmHukh3MJhVzYD7eZ9PJTNLz2Zy8HT8497ujJwXdZXvaVzBM0JifIQG8rDzyytXK4mEJwNE28nnXvvt6pjTKbP0Kumrw2+iNljNj+1JbZ/jgg6YcMA8Y9dcn0Txort0QX6UdjhEIME1lC2JK5+tITlbcbcJL8fGGrjrrH1MI/nHnEoKH8Sm+Om8xA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=none; dmarc=none; dkim=none; arc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outlook.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=yOFYfAoOchJPObpl7OBdc3NuRy6SrNlbwSu7MPKrdDU=; b=Y4pZ71a+zyLOIxAINTa7ThuDFrn+SDWDSak0exTVza6ppltBc/sOHDxDmiwzYG/xQAWHqAuJtfKdXoBC37587E8QV0V+AeoEMS624Ey5uVWENYZozMZtd4fcDZOUEU0xgipfXaNO2HcNnGnR7fLKFxCxZr9nRPsvWEsb08OAqL9o8fyb6EZpAgMfk13nHR/qVPA4VeRgOEXW+bm/R4otW2trt8dDfY1EpSNOVZVf3oBafPItMJn0UbqyhstpuOQy3MHQg8gZX34p4WNTK6D4M/FcH32U/QauH/QxgSzjOJRzU+iyyM5p45UkQcn9DSgt8pBCRm3LKRQ4+73xo0D3uw== Received: from LV8P223MB0920.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:408:1be::16) by PH7P223MB0594.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:510:1ac::8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.7762.22; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 17:16:14 +0000 Received: from LV8P223MB0920.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::ec63:e3ac:48b2:8c01]) by LV8P223MB0920.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::ec63:e3ac:48b2:8c01%3]) with mapi id 15.20.7719.028; Sun, 14 Jul 2024 17:16:14 +0000 From: David Masterson To: Ihor Radchenko Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Q: Attachments and IDs? References: <87le2859eg.fsf@localhost> <877cdpqut2.fsf@localhost> <87sewcjn1m.fsf@localhost> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 10:16:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87sewcjn1m.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sun, 14 Jul 2024 10:16:53 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Content-Type: text/plain X-TMN: [ONn/0bGB3Xh6cJEx7C4RF9Bq1QIagH0yT0/1dUNaya2T9zfI/8ZgsQnDE53H2gwk] X-ClientProxiedBy: BYAPR06CA0042.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:14b::19) To LV8P223MB0920.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:408:1be::16) X-Microsoft-Original-Message-ID: <8734obvqqs.fsf@penguin> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 2 X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: LV8P223MB0920:EE_|PH7P223MB0594:EE_ X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: bc3baf78-33eb-4005-397d-08dca428aa73 X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0; ARA:14566002|8060799006|19110799003|461199028|440099028|3412199025; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 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 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: =?us-ascii?Q?s9lG11MTo4YXK7h1vQsoVUDcpFZFbwAvIP5ZEEa3G76Yq72CiMcRL8YBhcqA?= =?us-ascii?Q?UvFtncjtdf/FY3xMmY22ZmlJxfdUkLFqIfsrtnsIX3hKMDYfyBnK9KL8NWqo?= =?us-ascii?Q?yGMBeQPFmM5kpbAu1SWgEPTRJX0T8ZaclS1Fd6iIDrmVQaAjBHQDr8AhVjA+?= =?us-ascii?Q?PBJv4dqBakMlQINvQ9gfM+Ok9YfpIdKE0D/Hi34RE+jOYG/3zfsPbnjklsyn?= =?us-ascii?Q?UdjofoPgAjmTWD8LT5Moht7R3N2qakutdEkdUff+qoBVypM/AbjqoHgaP2HX?= =?us-ascii?Q?u0T74yrjQKRVMUHtyzjaNUjw06IJqJAY9WUQ50+VERqw/tOHD16b2ybuCrgF?= =?us-ascii?Q?uAmLbEr4NVwB7BYu4YlRiWIZPQjdpLEwVae2DVBGS44Z+3QeIpJ1Bad/Aymh?= =?us-ascii?Q?zy2P0WEJZLGcxbNaIjAlzv9rBx67lo6yvw0cs6JCUHNUaZiiT8QP+wK65uCt?= =?us-ascii?Q?WKMeLzTyC5k+BxnMoQomRAEll644J3E3oA6dZMcp3hb5AbhSdbGGonuweiIH?= =?us-ascii?Q?7BKhgkg3+ElgArWUukekxg50ptMq5EcaWFhMNkn6WEKrt1F2sUiaes+3IM5P?= =?us-ascii?Q?0PIepw31VmuD2SqO+PVfRittmk0nxYloG9M0HfYpjChEwBaxegXIc41lRzlU?= =?us-ascii?Q?WeKTKV7jMSslpQdBUBmWxOkbSk8hAUG/ETIUZFiThqBEJ6c8xExVuwd9DUnV?= =?us-ascii?Q?Extx5CQh/LDgFn4KamNrnKAblrO7jcrMzinNcWMjOLQrg0BjgxyO+sLmlnyF?= =?us-ascii?Q?nt4aTWvpbn7XHZd+34e0KrzwmSM8Yvo6HoX6g58NRzdHyo0yO1ye2eCc6e+g?= =?us-ascii?Q?JB0S+x6E7JPsx/Hk5Gu2GXEUPtG878UXGr0VojLMaaQgECBIx/ZiCkhRcbTl?= =?us-ascii?Q?PyLzrNppLJr6e9993K9xAHIuuSSf9TO5sEStA+XNGmnFQsL2LvJrDboNTZd4?= =?us-ascii?Q?ZWNPdMpu9jbHhVNMa5fJOuaXeOlfKRiiOlVENTYosXkC37cICbdSBHxtIRzv?= =?us-ascii?Q?qZN4vVov3ACeCdlgXBg40iBP3VAujq0dB9xjb+iQi5z2OMcDd3KfzOBFDFbX?= =?us-ascii?Q?2/yRpIOYvLghfTNuQiBlc1uv/c5xbElLVy52ifGq8iRuotTRZWlpWH4WaxVs?= =?us-ascii?Q?nM1io906hKiKNWcR7Xr4lzBcTzuA9D2x0MuuZ9hc2948usgoc2DgOFD/Dlao?= =?us-ascii?Q?rOqLET32gkt7lNdcv3ItVbzliDh0kZJSnXfeHBKGzVUkq9vDc78uPkeAWWWw?= =?us-ascii?Q?LxWTQz8kFyCRTWvXnyQknCxCmYvsZ3Fhnd/7tK+sjC3yTYjHzQ3QgT+dVXYf?= =?us-ascii?Q?UytJIWjWMHGyD7s8G5BgaAOPm6ld5zbBtPvi6pabO/Et2w=3D=3D?= X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: bc3baf78-33eb-4005-397d-08dca428aa73 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: LV8P223MB0920.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2024 17:16:14.6918 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PH7P223MB0594 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=40.92.41.22; envelope-from=outlook_98C99531806B1C22@outlook.com; helo=NAM10-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: 2 X-Spam_score: 0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D447939C6D X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.60 X-Spam-Score: -6.60 X-TUID: hX1jki1WZTAi Ihor Radchenko writes: > I do not think that we need an appendix - most of the terms are simply > introduced one by one while reading the manual. My problem may be in treating the user's manual as a reference manual. So, if a term is introduced (and explained) in another section(s) that I didn't think applied to my particular issue, I might not see it or even know where to look for it without reading the whole manual. Coupled with fading memory, I forget what I read a few months ago that might apply. The appendix idea was simply to get all the key terminology in one area (which could then reference out to other sections in the manual) like Main Index. Wait a sec -- Main Index? I hadn't really thought about that before, but I think that's what I meant by appendix. Duh. Thanks for putting *up* with me. -- David Masterson