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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -3.57 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BBAF268D11 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.57 X-TUID: MNgHosTrp8vv Ihor Radchenko writes: > David Masterson writes: > >>> ///attached-file >> >> Hmm. I'm still misunderstanding the *value* of an ID (value in the sense >> of why is it useful for me). This suggests to me that, under >> org-attach-id-dir, you could have a tree of attachments, but what is an >> example of why that's a good thing (particularly for a newbie)? >> ... Since >> the documentation on attachments starts out mentioning an ID, it's >> helpful to understand why it's useful. Basically, I guess the above >> mentions "folder structure" without defining what is trying to be >> achieved with this more complicated folder structure instead of just one >> attachment directory where all attachments are dumped. > > You can attach files to multiple headings. > Using the heading ID to construct the attachment location makes sure > that we do not dump all the attachments together. > Isn't it obvious? I am genuinely surprised. I'm getting old, but I think I'm seeing it now. I think the word "entry" in 10.2 threw me for awhile (entry as in a task hierarchy as opposed to a particular attachment). Maybe an Appendix for these generic words (entry, ID, header, task, ...) that explains their special meaning in Org for reference? Not sure. Thanks for putting with me. -- David Masterson