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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 06:49:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F7BEDFBC-96F7-40D1-B8D4-BA2E1374A9A6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130913100125.257db23d@vknecht-intel.unibw-hamburg.de>

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On 13.9.2013, at 10:01, Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>> 
>>> So the question is should it be a default package?
>>> 
>>> I think not.  E.g. tabu isn't loaded.  Amsmath isn't loaded if you
>>> generate a matrix.
>> 
>> I think the "tabu" case (and longtable...) is different from "rotating".
>> 
>> No feature in Org requires "tabu" or "longtable" unless user explicitly
>> writes "tabu" or "longtable" somewhere in the buffer (i.e.
>> in :environment attribute).
>> 
>> On the other hand, "rotating" or "wrapfig" may be needed without the
>> user knowing about it (e.g. when setting :float or :wrap attributes).
>> 
>> Therefore, I think "wrapfig" and "rotating" belong to the same boat.
>> Either we require them both in default packages, or we do not require
>> any and add a footnote about it in the manual. I have no preference.
>> 
> 
> I think it is more consistent to provide these packages automagically.
> 
> There seems no downside besides slightly longer latex startup times.
> Org already loads some default packages to perform its export magic.
> Why not try to be "feature" complete in the sense Nicloas describes:
> User doesn't try something special with latex, but uses
> commands/options provided by org, so a bare bone export can be expected
> work.
> 
> Personally I would appreciate it very much if org followed the
> principle of least surprise in these cases, as these surprises tend to
> show up, if time is running out ;-) 

OK, let me ask like this:

Does anyone know about conflicts arising from loading wrapfig and rotating?

- Carsten

> 
> Just my two user cents.
> 
> Detlef 
> 
> 
>> On the same line, we could remove "longtable" from
>> `org-latex-default-packages-alist', if only to spare a few kittens.
>> 
>> WDYT?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Nicolas Goaziou
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-15  4:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-11 11:05 [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package? Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:01 ` Rasmus
2013-09-11 12:08   ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:14     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-11 12:25       ` Rasmus
2013-09-11 15:24         ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:30       ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-12 17:42   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12 18:33     ` Rasmus
2013-09-12 19:00       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-13  8:49         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-12 19:22     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-13  8:01     ` Detlef Steuer
2013-09-15  4:49       ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2013-09-15 14:02         ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-16  8:08           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 10:47         ` Rasmus
2013-09-16 11:26           ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-16 13:27           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 13:38             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 19:26             ` Rasmus
2013-09-16 20:21               ` Andreas Leha
2013-09-17  1:45               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-17  4:48                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-17 13:24                   ` Rasmus
2013-09-18 13:18                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-18 22:21                       ` Rasmus
2013-09-19  2:04                         ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-19  9:11                           ` Rasmus
2013-09-19  9:28                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-19  9:38                           ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-19 11:05                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25  7:04                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25  7:45                               ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-25  7:50                                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25  9:09                                 ` Rasmus
2013-09-26  8:51                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-17 13:30                 ` Rasmus
2013-09-17  5:11 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-17  8:05   ` Eric S Fraga

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