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This is because their focus while writing will be= on the manual and its formatting, not on Org markup that exports to another= markup. I hope this is considered in your strategy. -- rsw > On Oct 8, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider = ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 >> The latter. We currently need a new syntax element that will allow all >> the things available in Texinfo markup syntax. >=20 >> We have decided that we do need such new syntax. We are discussing how >> the new syntax will look like. We will implement the syntax in future. >> Once implemented, the new syntax will open the road to add Texinfo >> markup structures into Org export backends. >=20 > I'm glad you are working on this. >=20 > --=20 > Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) >=20 >=20 >=20