Re: Re: A request: Moving away from ChangeLog

[Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>]

Hi Christian,

are we ready to install org-taskjuggler.el into Org-mode?
Where do you want it, core or contrib?

I did not yet hear from you that the FSF assignment process
is done, could you please update me on that?

Thanks.

- Carsten

On May 21, 2010, at 11:10 PM, Christian Egli wrote:

> Hi all
>
> John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The Emacs ChangeLog is a file which predates the existence of freely
>> available, project-wide version control. It was a way to see, in one
>> place, the stream of changes occurring in a project -- something  
>> which
>> RCS could not do for you.
>
> The only problem is that we need to have a Changelog for upstream,  
> i.e.
> Emacs.
>
>> However, in this modern era of project-wide, atomic commits, the
>> ChangeLog is not only an archaism, but is a continuous source of  
>> merge
>> conflicts. For example, when I reverted Russell's latest change -- a
>> one-liner that was minor in the extreme -- I had to do with a merge
>> conflict in lisp/ChangeLog.
>
> If the real problem you're trying to solve is the merge conflicts you
> get with the Changelog files then the solution might be Bruno Haible’s
> git merge driver for GNU-style ChangeLog files[1] (available in  
> gnulib[2]).
>
> Automatic generation of the Changelog file sounds like a fine solution
> and I'm all for it, but when it comes down to the actual  
> requirements of
> the Changelog (such as file and especially function names) things  
> don't
> look that rosy anymore (doesn't work outside of Emacs, can no longer  
> use
> M-x add-change-log-entry, etc).
>
> So before pouring out the baby with the bathwater maybe we should at
> least try if the git merge driver solves the main problem we have with
> the Changelog files.
>
> Thanks
> Christian
>
> Footnotes:
> [1]  http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-gnulib@gnu.org/msg09183.html
> [2]  http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=gnulib.git;a=blob;f=lib/git-merge-changelog.c
>
> -- 
> Christian Egli
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> Grubenstrasse 12, CH-8045 Zürich, Switzerland
>
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- Carsten