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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Osamu OKANO <okano.osamu@gmail.com>
Cc: org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Re: orgcard.txt in Makefile
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:54:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EB285A22-7CC9-4D10-845F-CFBC04B9CE8D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s2t5dc45ae1004270632ibaaf1885k680eae6848590249@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Osamu,

this looks really good!  What is imperfect?

- Carsten

On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Osamu OKANO wrote:

> Hi, all.
> I wrote the (sami) auto convert script
> to generate from orgcard.tex to orgcard.txt.
> http://gist.github.com/378941
>
> This script is not perfect, but may boost update of orgcard.txt and
> org-help.org.
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Carsten Dominik
> <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote:
>>
>>> I intended this for the list, for what it's worth, so I am  
>>> forwarding it
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I tried at some point to reduce the orgcard to an org-mode file.  I
>>> have a copy, but it's way out of date.  Org is changing too fast for
>>> me to keep up.  It's perhaps worthwhile, though, and maybe  
>>> useful.  It
>>> is to me. It's attached.
>>
>>
>> Actually, the orgcard is changing only very slowly.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>>
>>> I started by running, I think, untex on orgcard.tex, then formatting
>>> the output by hand.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Nathan Neff <nathan.neff@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Christian Egli <christian.egli@sbszh.ch 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathan Neff <nathan.neff@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to use the orgcard.txt file that's included in the org- 
>>>>>> mode
>>>>>> source.
>>>>>> I like being able to search through a text file for relevant  
>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>> shortcuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't seem like it's been updated since org version 6.10.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried running make doc, but I don't think that orgcard.txt is
>>>>>> generated in
>>>>>> the "make doc" task.
>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK It is not.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is orgcard.txt generated from orgcard.tex?  If so, can anyone  
>>>>>> tell me
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> to do it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume that it is converted by hand. I tried a few automated  
>>>>> tools
>>>>> (pdftotext, latex2html + w3m) but they all give very bad results.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend to either
>>>>>
>>>>>  a) compare the existing orgcard.pdf and orgcard.txt and update  
>>>>> the
>>>>>    existing orgcard.txt accordingly or
>>>>>  b) cut'n'paste the text from a pdf viewer into emacs and do  
>>>>> some magic
>>>>>    with rectangles (as the text is in three columns) to achieve  
>>>>> the
>>>>>    desired result.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then submit the newest orgcard.txt as a patch so you will not  
>>>>> have to
>>>>> keep it locally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very cool.  I want to contribute back to org-mode, but I don't
>>>> want to manually modify orgcard.txt :-)
>>>>
>>>> I will write a script that can parse the orgcard.tex file and  
>>>> pull out
>>>> the
>>>> goodies that we want in the orgcard.txt file.
>>>>
>>>> Regardless of whether that script is accepted into the org-mode  
>>>> base, I
>>>> can
>>>> run the script when there's an update to orgcard.tex, then submit  
>>>> the
>>>> updated orgcard.txt.
>>>>
>>>> I should have a quick & dirty script (Perl) done by next week.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --Nate
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christian Egli
>>>>> Swiss Library for the Blind, Visually Impaired and Print Disabled
>>>>> Grubenstrasse 12, CH-8045 Zürich, Switzerland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>
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- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-29 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-12 16:56 orgcard.txt in Makefile Nathan Neff
2010-04-13  6:19 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-13  7:33 ` Christian Egli
2010-04-14 16:05   ` Nathan Neff
     [not found]     ` <p2u7bef1f891004141322z52049ba7z9adce42db9e8b77f@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-14 20:24       ` Fwd: " Alan E. Davis
2010-04-15 11:08         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-27 13:32           ` Osamu OKANO
2010-04-29 13:54             ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-05-07 14:20               ` Osamu OKANO
2010-05-07 14:52                 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-07 15:43                   ` Osamu OKANO
2010-05-12 12:52                   ` Osamu OKANO
2010-05-12 14:23                     ` Carsten Dominik

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