From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: org-table : some questions ... Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:33:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <48089F63.3050704@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1485790509==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmqn4-0004Tr-8p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:38:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JmqiT-0002aL-L0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:33:25 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JmqiE-0002aI-Au for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:33:10 -0400 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.191]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JmqiD-0001Ed-VR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:33:10 -0400 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 26so716216fkx.10 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:33:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <48089F63.3050704@yahoo.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: wulfhomme13-rook@yahoo.com Cc: org-mode --===============1485790509== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19-437633554 --Apple-Mail-19-437633554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Apr 18, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Jose Robins wrote: > Let me first setup the context for my question. I'm an electrical > engineer designing IC's (in San Diego, USA) and have a great need > for documenting my simulation data in a format similar to what I > have attached in the jpg file (and pasted below)... > > The snapshot below was using built-in table-mode in emacs. The key > reason I used table mode instead of org-table to document this data > was due to the ability to have some columns be merged (or "spanned" > in table-mode terminology) in some rows. However I find org-table's > features a bit more intuitive and would prefer to use that instead. > In fact I started off with documenting data in org-mode and finally > converted that to table-mode because of the exact reason that I > mentioned above. > > Question(s): > 1. Is there a way that I could achieve this sort of column spanning > in org-table mode? No. > > 2. Or is there an alternative way of arrangement using org-mode to > achieve the same objective of data organization? Not really. You can put arbitrarily long text into a column and then fix with width of a column, but that is it. > 3. If not, would this be easy to implement (and useful enough for > others) to have such an option? I would be really hard to implement and so it is not oing to happen. table.el that comes with emacs is nice for this kind of stuff, if you find some of the commands not intuitive, try to bind your own commands, or contact the author of table.el, Takaaki Ota is a nice guy, maybe you can inspire him. table.el is focussed on nice and flexible layout, and they integrate with Org quite well in terms of export and activation. Org's tables are for speed and ease of use, and to allow computations. I don't see a way to make both possible in the same table. - Carsten --Apple-Mail-19-437633554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Apr 18, 2008, = at 3:17 PM, Jose Robins wrote:
Let me first setup the context for my question. = I'm an electrical engineer designing IC's (in San Diego, USA) and have a = great need for documenting my simulation data in a format similar to = what I have attached in the jpg file (and pasted below)...

The = snapshot below  was using  built-in table-mode in emacs. The = key reason I used table mode instead of org-table to document this data = was due to the ability to have some columns be merged (or "spanned" in = table-mode terminology) in some rows. However I find org-table's = features a bit more intuitive and would prefer to use that = instead.  In fact I started off with documenting data in org-mode = and finally converted that to table-mode because of the exact reason = that I mentioned above.

Question(s):
1.  Is there a = way that I could achieve this sort of column spanning in org-table = mode?

No.


2. Or is there an = alternative way of arrangement using org-mode to achieve the same = objective of data = organization?

Not = really.  You can put arbitrarily long text into a column and then = fix with width of a column, but that is = it.

3. If = not, would this be easy to implement (and useful enough for others) to = have such an = option?

I would be = really hard to implement and so it is not oing to happen.  table.el = that
comes with emacs is nice for this kind of stuff, if you = find some of the commands
not intuitive, try to bind your own = commands, or contact the author of table.el, Takaaki Ota is a nice guy, = maybe you can inspire him.

table.el is focussed = on nice and flexible layout, and they integrate with Org quite well in = terms of export and activation.

Org's tables = are for speed and ease of use, and to allow computations.  I don't = see a way to make both possible in the same = table.

- Carsten

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