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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1656906054; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=/FrayBCZ0KDlXla5BYdcApQLJRh5ZEye6ePUpS3lpB0=; b=O3i1ZZNxL1bqLLdLVcnbekms8YL1M9Ne9kIPyftJR3RSBdhKYbh2Tchg81smvWJVoPufji OG5jjpsF2ObbRq2koNkqY/vd6xd5jpycqYs5UM1QxlUHU4XOMHbqZf+r1dt3D1CdsiP3p8 ky+D9uOJbIDXaxB/LhTMz17roDt8yVr/P8QmItI4qavHo5cshtvMWBZQd3rHszlZ6m2I8w tUK3LQDk6ieM4GL2vRWUENRjia0TTwYcfDHpfApaB8crzWPAi6EX42ROYBL4GR0e/1302R w97HQBZX9V1HgtDBeCt1ZQTAXzGP5esQi2XwjQdOVNMhQzX1O/Fnd0TBBvrsdQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1656906054; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=N0nc99rdomCX+2BE3OkSMhFLmY3jH0gmPh1ReKCv/q8a4LZ35iURa1ZaaA9i/0oBbpu+x4 /H37bGAj8x2CS9eN4TuhEzOHQVHONdNtpZQYDssr4uiX7kP+7uUHxzpNDCJ3R0rPSmm5iP ZMrfX2FZ2eGqg1jXw47AS7LMwd43ZeZGA4MJI0h6XN5NiVEPXPI+Vy/hIaoF2/4R+4S0Uv 1P5TmT12lbtU4EOX30O4romNlax4oj5rmxVq0qDZC35iGeFyUpg1eKB4WUkap1mAwflEvj 2H7Gq/EGL5RRohGsTD+DSBpfS7OTQyp5a7W+fZ1qgaFdQSGXZI93aahmj5EPGw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=hpFb6rr0; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.15 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=hpFb6rr0; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2C560EA36 X-Spam-Score: -3.15 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: hslVepKNSIqX [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I don't see this discussion leading to anything if it is only about > personal preferences and views. It's about the GNU Project's moral stand (nonfree software is an injustice, and encouraging people to use it is wrong), and what follows from that. It's also about the GNU project policy of not steering the public to run nonfree-software. You can find that in the GNU Coding Standards, node References. People asked questions such as "What would you do?" so I answered them. > More seriously, it is peculiar that you do not see anything problematic in > promoting businesses of entities who rely on non-free software for their > business. To see that as problematic would be a rather extreme position. Do you hold that position? Do you know anyone who does? Do you know anyone that boycotts or rebukes businesses for running non-free software internally? I don't. The GNU Project takes a less extreme position: if a business asks customers to use nonfree software to communicate with the business, we advise people to refuse to use that software. Sometimes it's possible to do business with that company and avoid the nonfree software. Sometimes it's not. As this example shows, there are various different kinds of scenarios involving businesses and nonfree software. The GNU Project makes these distinctions and treats them differently. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)