some notes about installing org-mode on Sidux

some notes about installing org-mode on Sidux

[Raimund Kohl-Füchsle]

Hello all,

I faced some problems with using remember and org-mode and first I 
didn't connect them with either remember nor org-mode but with my use of 
aptitude instead, which is completely wrong with Sidux (well, we all 
learn ... )  However, in the end I thought to just mention a few of my 
experiences.  Since I am no expert, neither with emacs nor with any 
programming languages (-being just a lousy user instead-) I thought to 
mention them anyway :-) ... if all what I faced is connected with 
incompetence on my side, well, don't through tomatoes at me ... just 
smile, please :-)

Ok, first I installed Sidux, a system based on Debian sid, but 
stabilized and realy easy to use.  I installed emacs22 and became quite 
amazed learning that org-mode came along bundled with emacs22.  Yeah, I 
thought, great.  Since I came from Ubuntu, the only thing I needed to do 
was to outcomment

;;(require 'org-install)

and all went well.  However, after some time of using org-mode I became 
aware that when exporting to html CSS didn't work properly (which had 
worked before with Ubuntu!)  When researching the reason I found out 
that the version that came bundled with emacs22 is a very old version 
(AFAIR 4.65, and I guess back then there had been no org-install 
variable and that was the reason why I was to outcomment it to have 
org-mode working ... right?).  Next I found out that there existed a 
seperate deb pakage "org-mode" which then delivered the newest version.  
And this one needs to have set (require 'org-install) otherwise it will 
not work (at least) with remember-el.  I may have overlooked that in the 
manual that older versions don't accept "org-install", but newer 
versions need it to work properly.

Also according to my fresh experience it seems to matter if

    (require 'org-install)


is called *before* e.g.:

    (org-remember-insinuate)
    (setq org-directory "~/Rollen/Org/")
    (define-key global-map "\C-cr" 'org-remember)


If not emacs complains about a void org-remember-insinuate and will not 
work together with remember-el.

There is another thing that I noted when installing org-mode.  Here the 
install note:

---snip---

In org-indent-to-column:
org-compat.el:212:5:Warning: `indent-to-column' called with 3 args, but
    requires 1-2

---snap---

Ok, so that was what I wanted to mention ...

ray

Re: some notes about installing org-mode on Sidux

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Raimund,

yes,  (require 'org-install) is only needed if you have downloaded  
your Org installation separately, not as part of emacs.

yes, this should be the first line of org-related configuration.

The warning you see is no problem.

- Carsten
On Jul 27, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Raimund Kohl-Füchsle wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I faced some problems with using remember and org-mode and first I  
> didn't connect them with either remember nor org-mode but with my  
> use of aptitude instead, which is completely wrong with Sidux (well,  
> we all learn ... )  However, in the end I thought to just mention a  
> few of my experiences.  Since I am no expert, neither with emacs nor  
> with any programming languages (-being just a lousy user instead-) I  
> thought to mention them anyway :-) ... if all what I faced is  
> connected with incompetence on my side, well, don't through tomatoes  
> at me ... just smile, please :-)
>
> Ok, first I installed Sidux, a system based on Debian sid, but  
> stabilized and realy easy to use.  I installed emacs22 and became  
> quite amazed learning that org-mode came along bundled with  
> emacs22.  Yeah, I thought, great.  Since I came from Ubuntu, the  
> only thing I needed to do was to outcomment
>
> ;;(require 'org-install)
>
> and all went well.  However, after some time of using org-mode I  
> became aware that when exporting to html CSS didn't work properly  
> (which had worked before with Ubuntu!)  When researching the reason  
> I found out that the version that came bundled with emacs22 is a  
> very old version (AFAIR 4.65, and I guess back then there had been  
> no org-install variable and that was the reason why I was to  
> outcomment it to have org-mode working ... right?).  Next I found  
> out that there existed a seperate deb pakage "org-mode" which then  
> delivered the newest version.  And this one needs to have set  
> (require 'org-install) otherwise it will not work (at least) with  
> remember-el.  I may have overlooked that in the manual that older  
> versions don't accept "org-install", but newer versions need it to  
> work properly.
>
> Also according to my fresh experience it seems to matter if
>
>   (require 'org-install)
>
>
> is called *before* e.g.:
>
>   (org-remember-insinuate)
>   (setq org-directory "~/Rollen/Org/")
>   (define-key global-map "\C-cr" 'org-remember)
>
>
> If not emacs complains about a void org-remember-insinuate and will  
> not work together with remember-el.
>
> There is another thing that I noted when installing org-mode.  Here  
> the install note:
>
> ---snip---
>
> In org-indent-to-column:
> org-compat.el:212:5:Warning: `indent-to-column' called with 3 args,  
> but
>   requires 1-2
>
> ---snap---
>
> Ok, so that was what I wanted to mention ...
>
> ray
>
>
>
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