From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: saving state of buffer Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:02:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <878v5inpfd.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <514AD187.6080903@gmail.com> <514AD606.30505@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9D9482CE-D9B1-4095-B576-DF3C3A956320" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIdGD-0006bm-U9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:02:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIdG8-0006ll-SG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:02:17 -0400 Received: from ezel.ic.uva.nl ([146.50.108.158]:60405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UIdG8-0006lO-Dp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:02:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: 42 147 Cc: Rainer@krugs.de, Org Mode --Apple-Mail=_9D9482CE-D9B1-4095-B576-DF3C3A956320 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This is nice, does anyone of you have write permissions on Work to add = this? - Carsten On 21 mrt. 2013, at 11:16, 42 147 wrote: > > Good - May I suggest, that you write a step - by step howto and mail = it here or even add it to > > worg? This would be a useful addition. > I adapted this thread the best I could. Feel free to do with it what = you wish. >=20 > QUESTION >=20 > How do I restore the state of my buffer where I left it? >=20 > ANSWER >=20 > When Emacs first visits an Org file, the global state is set to > OVERVIEW, i.e., only the top level headlines are visible. >=20 > If you wish Emacs to restore the position of point where you left it = in > your previous session, add the following code to your .emacs: >=20 > (require 'saveplace) > (setq-default save-place t) >=20 > If you wish Org-mode to restore the folded state of the buffer (not = just > the position of point), you can either use customize, or add the = following > to .emacs: >=20 > (setq org-show-siblings '((default) (isearch t) (bookmark-jump . t))) >=20 > If you use customize, take look at the variable org-show-siblings and = set a > special context for bookmark-jump. This will work for both saveplace = and > bookmarks. >=20 > Org-mode has very precise control for situations when a jump into = invisible > text happens, for example by isearch or by bookmark-jump or saveplace. > There are companion variables, and they are all in the customization = group > org-reveal-context. >=20 > 2013/3/21 Rainer M Krug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 21/03/13 10:28, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > > > On 21 mrt. 2013, at 10:23, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > > > On 21/03/13 10:05, 42 147 wrote: > >>>> Thanks David, but what Carsten suggested completely resolved my = problem (it applies not > >>>> just to bookmarks; it fully preserves my buffer's folded state = after adding Christoph's > >>>> code to my .emacs). > > > > Good - May I suggest, that you write a step - by step howto and mail = it here or even add it to > > worg? This would be a useful addition. > > > >> I guess it would make a good FAQ entry. >=20 > Haven't thought about these - they would even be better then worg. >=20 > > > >> I also think that maybe the current default is not good, = show-siblings should probably > >> default to t for bookmark jump. >=20 > Would make much sense - I assume that would then open the location = when doing a search - replace. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Rainer >=20 > > > >> - Carsten > > > > > >>>> But I should also thank you for finding the words I struggled to = find ("folded state"). > > > > And we have to thank you for this useful question! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rainer > > > >>>> > >>>> I feel honored that royalty stepped into the discussion. > >>>> > >>>> Herzlichen Dank, > >>>> > >>>> 42 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 2013/3/21 Carsten Dominik > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 20.3.2013, at 19:28, 42 147 > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> (require 'saveplace) (setq-default save-place t) > >>>>> > >>>>>> works for me. It just opens the place where I had the point, = nothing more, but that's > >>>>>> what I need most. > >>>>> > >>>>> This is more convenient than Emacs bookmarks, but still breaks = org-mode to a certain > >>>>> extent: all non top-level headlines below point are hidden. At = least for me. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Org-mode has very precise control for situations when a jump into = invisible text happens, > >>>> for example by isearch or by bookmark-jump or saveplace. Take a = look at the variable > >>>> org-show-siblings and set a special context for bookmark-jump, = that should do it. This > >>>> will work for both saveplace and bookmarks. > >>>> > >>>> You can do this with customize, or just like this: > >>>> > >>>> (setq org-show-siblings '((default) (isearch t) (bookmark-jump . = t))) > >>>> > >>>> There are companion variables, they are all in the customization = group > >>>> org-reveal-context. > >>>> > >>>> - Carsten > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > >=20 > - -- > Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation = Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. > (Germany) >=20 > Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology > Stellenbosch University > South Africa >=20 > Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 > Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 > Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 >=20 > Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 >=20 > email: Rainer@krugs.de >=20 > Skype: RMkrug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ >=20 > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRStYGAAoJENvXNx4PUvmCOYQH/iun7nUB4Wr4KJXwGuCJizgW > 7h7565oAlV0ka6JONGG03xnxh0PvZCrj3Ns7xE6kitLeVZ0oIEa8Wp1I4eMGX1PI > qXGnTuJ/nwVtpdn9geswCM11Rfz3KdlBWUz6zYFUXrD1GVaEyXBJPj2j0H1N27RD > 6pK0IS3T7pnuycIpmqzEU5aWAkgK01sB3mIs5JYvnMGfoV0ZXLGcVplqXO0Hc3XR > P1Ea/uzzWSSKgJWGSlB9ELVC1sZg8xPqjM/vWPG2U+/fp3VfJ2aeJJc9v87mq3li > YI8Z4fYKO00oKv+quEOGWyDr0bO3w9PjJGAWmlw0cFu9UzxU4pRAmHR+XyTTCOc=3D > =3Dy9LZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 --Apple-Mail=_9D9482CE-D9B1-4095-B576-DF3C3A956320 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 This is nice, does anyone of you have write permissions on Work to add this?

- Carsten

On 21 mrt. 2013, at 11:16, 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good - May I suggest, that you write a step - by step howto and mail it here or even add it to
> worg? This would be a useful addition.
I adapted this thread the best I could. Feel free to do with it what you wish.

QUESTION

How do I restore the state of my buffer where I left it?

ANSWER

When Emacs first visits an Org file, the global state is set to
OVERVIEW, i.e., only the top level headlines are visible.

If you wish Emacs to restore the position of point where you left it in
your previous session, add the following code to your .emacs:

(require 'saveplace)
(setq-default save-place t)

If you wish Org-mode to restore the folded state of the buffer (not just
the position of point), you can either use customize, or add the following
to .emacs:

(setq org-show-siblings '((default) (isearch t) (bookmark-jump . t)))

If you use customize, take look at the variable org-show-siblings and set a
special context for bookmark-jump. This will work for both saveplace and
bookmarks.

Org-mode has very precise control for situations when a jump into invisible
text happens, for example by isearch or by bookmark-jump or saveplace.
There are companion variables, and they are all in the customization group
org-reveal-context.

2013/3/21 Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com>
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On 21/03/13 10:28, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On 21 mrt. 2013, at 10:23, Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 21/03/13 10:05, 42 147 wrote:
>>>> Thanks David, but what Carsten suggested completely resolved my problem (it applies not
>>>> just to bookmarks; it fully preserves my buffer's folded state after adding Christoph's
>>>> code to my .emacs).
>
> Good - May I suggest, that you write a step - by step howto and mail it here or even add it to
> worg? This would be a useful addition.
>
>> I guess it would make a good FAQ entry.

Haven't thought about these - they would even be better then worg.

>
>> I also think that maybe the current default is not good, show-siblings should probably
>> default to t for bookmark jump.

Would make much sense - I assume that would then open the location when doing a search - replace.

Cheers,

Rainer

>
>> - Carsten
>
>
>>>> But I should also thank you for finding the words I struggled to find ("folded state").
>
> And we have to thank you for this useful question!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rainer
>
>>>>
>>>> I feel honored that royalty stepped into the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Herzlichen Dank,
>>>>
>>>> 42
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/21 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com <mailto:carsten.dominik@gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20.3.2013, at 19:28, 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com <mailto:aeuster@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> (require 'saveplace) (setq-default save-place t)
>>>>>
>>>>>> works for me. It just opens the place where I had the point, nothing more, but that's
>>>>>> what I need most.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is more convenient than Emacs bookmarks, but still breaks org-mode to a certain
>>>>> extent: all non top-level headlines below point are hidden. At least for me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Org-mode has very precise control for situations when a jump into invisible text happens,
>>>> for example by isearch or by bookmark-jump or saveplace.  Take a look at the variable
>>>> org-show-siblings and set a special context for bookmark-jump, that should do it.  This
>>>> will work for both saveplace and bookmarks.
>>>>
>>>> You can do this with customize, or just like this:
>>>>
>>>> (setq org-show-siblings '((default) (isearch t) (bookmark-jump . t)))
>>>>
>>>> There are companion variables, they are all in the customization group
>>>> org-reveal-context.
>>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>

- --
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys.
(Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :       +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:       +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax :       +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):    +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:      Rainer@krugs.de

Skype:      RMkrug
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