From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ben Alexander Subject: Re: import mail messages like mhc? Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:30:18 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0058622044==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktmy3-00073F-Ds for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:27 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktmy2-00072r-UW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48241 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktmy2-00072T-C9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:26 -0400 Received: from harley.gnservers.com ([72.52.242.16]:50113) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ktmy1-0003wv-Ch for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:25 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Cc: bremner@unb.ca --===============0058622044== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--312000643 --Apple-Mail-1--312000643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2008-Oct-25, at 16:39, emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.org wrote: > > From: bremner@unb.ca > Date: 25 October 2008 13:10:27 BST > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: [Orgmode] import mail messages like mhc? > > > > Hi All; > > I am currently using a Frankenstein-duct-tape-monster made from mhc > and org-mode to track time and manage todos. For various reasons I > would like to switch to just org-mode. One thing I really like about > mhc is the ability to semi-automatically turn a mail message (in > e.g. mew, gnus, wanderlust) into an agenda item/todo. Partly this is > because mhc agenda items are MH messages, but the thing I would like > to copy is that it reads the message body and surprisingly often > guesses the date and time of an appointment. Before I try to port this > to org-mode, has someone already done something similar? > > David > Completely unrelated to org-mode: I would love to move my email to Emacs and use something like this, but I the only solutions I can understand rely on moving mail from my IMAP based inbox onto the local system. This is good; I want offline access. But this is bad: I want to refile email entries and move the messages on IMAP server into folders. Everything I've read indicates that once the mail has been downloaded to my laptop, any organization is only local, and not synced back to the IMAP folders. (And no, unfortunately I don't have login access to my IMAP server -- I do have ftp access though) Does anyone have some cheap advice on mixing email and org-mode? Back to org-mode: Since I haven't gotten any further than wishing Emacs could read my mail, I haven't looked to see if the (org-store-link) does the right magic thing in Rmail and/or Gnus. According the org-mode manual, there is all kinds of support for linking from your org-mode buffer back to the original email. And in terms of finding the right date from your mail message, I think the date parsing routine that C-. (org- time-stamp) uses absolutely rocks. For example, I just tried pasting the header from your email into the minibuffer after a 'C-.'. Org-mode didn't recognize the date because of the cruft of the To: field and the Subject: field. But within the minibuffer, I could hit C-p to get the the line with the date and *poof* like magic it found the date. And the minibuffer shows you what date it has computed. It did have a bit more trouble finding things like 'See you next Monday', But since C-k C-a and C-e work in the minibuffer, you might be able to yank the entire message into the buffer and then kill the text that doesn't have the date you want. Well, for short emails anyway. -Ben --Apple-Mail-1--312000643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2008-Oct-25, = at 16:39, emacs-orgmode-request@gnu.or= g wrote:

Date: 25 October 2008 = 13:10:27 BST
Subject: = [Orgmode] import mail messages like = mhc?



Hi All;

I am currently using = a Frankenstein-duct-tape-monster made from mhc
and org-mode to track = time and manage todos. For various reasons I
would like to switch to = just org-mode. One thing I really like about
mhc is the ability to = semi-automatically turn a mail message (in
e.g. mew, gnus, = wanderlust) into an agenda item/todo.  Partly this is
because = mhc agenda items are MH messages, but the thing I would like
to copy = is that it reads the message body and surprisingly often
guesses the = date and time of an appointment. Before I try to port this
to = org-mode, has someone already done something = similar?

David


Completely = unrelated to org-mode:
I would love to move my email to Emacs = and use something like this, but I the only solutions I can understand = rely on moving mail from my IMAP based inbox onto the local system. =  This is good; I want offline access.  But this is bad: I want = to refile email entries and move the messages on IMAP server into = folders.  Everything I've read indicates that once the mail has = been downloaded to my laptop, any organization is only local, and not = synced back to the IMAP folders.  (And no, unfortunately I don't = have login access to my IMAP server -- I do have ftp access = though)

Does anyone have some cheap advice on = mixing email and org-mode?


Back = to org-mode:
Since I haven't gotten any further than wishing = Emacs could read my mail, I haven't looked to see if the = (org-store-link) does the right magic thing in Rmail and/or Gnus. =  According the org-mode manual, there is all kinds of support for = linking from your org-mode buffer back to the original email.  And = in terms of finding the right date from your mail message, I think the = date parsing routine that C-. (org-time-stamp) uses absolutely = rocks.

For example, I just tried pasting the = header from your email into the minibuffer after a 'C-.'.  Org-mode = didn't recognize the date because of the cruft of the To: field and the = Subject: field.  But within the minibuffer, I could hit C-p to get = the the line with the date and *poof* like magic it found the date. =  And the minibuffer shows you what  date it has = computed.

It did have a bit more trouble = finding things like 'See you next Monday', But since C-k C-a and C-e = work in the minibuffer, you might be able to yank the entire message = into the buffer and then kill the text that doesn't have the date you = want.  Well, for short emails = anyway.

-Ben
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