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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-insert-heading rewritten from scratch
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:13:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D4510BC1-43FE-4F06-A948-770DECD4639D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gf2nd2y.fsf@gmail.com>

Hi Nicolas,

On 31.8.2013, at 16:34, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On 8.8.2013, at 09:41, Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have rewritten org-insert-heading, because it had become an unmaintainable beast.
>>>> Please follow up in this thread if you find problems with the new implementation.
>>>> Very likely there will be bugs, but now I am at least confident they can be fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> - Carsten
>>> 
>>> Awesome! Thanks very much for doing this. Will report back with bugs.
>> 
>> I take it none have been found?
> 
> Not really a bug, but I find some behaviour surprising: when at a the
> beginning of a regular text line, there is no way to create a headline
> just above it. In the following example:
> 
>  XCursor is at "X"
> 
> Neither M-RET, C-u M-RET, C-RET nor C-u C-RET can do it. Is it intended?

Which behavior would you propose?  I guess you mean that, at the beginning of a line,
the result is so different for normal lines versus headlines?

The way I was thinking about the behavior at the beginning of a non-headline
is that it is the same as in the middle of a line:  Take the rest of the line
and turn it into a headline.

To create a headline before a nonempty line, I use `C-o M-RET'

To be sure:  I am happy to change the behavior if that is what people
want and if it makes logically sense.

> Also in this case, I think C-RET should create the new headline _after_
> the subtree, since that's its whole point anyway, AFAIU.

That is what happens for me.  It does not for you?

> 
> Eventually, it seems that behaviour towards empty lines is a bit
> unpredictable. In the following example, M-RET will be behave
> differently on each blank line between Paragraph and "H2". C-RET will be
> consistent.

Because it does what M-RET does in the last line of the subtree.

> Note: I have `auto' as value for `heading' key in
> `org-blank-before-new-entry'.
> 
>  * H1
> 
>    Paragraph
> 
> 
> 
>  * H2


Hmm, I do find this behavior consistent. M-RET does not change the number
of while lines after the current, only before, in order to either have
an empty line or not.

Which behavior would you propose?

> 
> IMO, using M-RET and C-RET should be as smooth an experience as
> possible.

I fully agree.

> 
> I also suggest to write function specifications as tests in test-org.el.

Yes, I have yet to write my first test.  Need to figure out how that works.

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-01  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08  6:43 org-insert-heading rewritten from scratch Carsten Dominik
2013-08-08  7:41 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-08-31 14:00   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-08-31 14:34     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-01  6:13       ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2013-09-01  8:19         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-01 12:04           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-01 12:25             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 13:16             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 13:25               ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 13:33                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 13:38                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 13:47                   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 13:58                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-03 14:04                       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-03 14:12                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-07 10:50                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-07 12:01                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-01  2:38     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-01  3:11     ` Samuel Wales
2013-09-01  3:13       ` Samuel Wales
2013-09-09 16:42 ` Michael Brand
2013-09-09 19:10   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 20:37     ` Michael Brand
2013-09-12 20:20       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-12 20:52         ` Michael Brand
2013-09-12 20:58           ` Carsten Dominik

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