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* How to specify column alignment in LaTeX table output?
@ 2025-01-09  9:38 Richard H Stanton
  2025-01-09 10:17 ` Rens Oliemans
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From: Richard H Stanton @ 2025-01-09  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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Here’s a table in my org document:

#+ATTR_LATEX: :align rrrr :options [htbp]
#+begin_table
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
|  Tier | Number |     Total | % of Total |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
|     1 |      4 |  8,700.00 |      57.39 |
|     2 |     19 |  5,398.00 |      35.61 |
|     3 |     24 |  1,061.40 |       7.00 |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
| Total |     47 | 15,159.40 |     100.00 |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
#+end_table

I want all the columns to be right-aligned (as they are in the org document), but when exported to LaTeX/PDF, the “Total” column in the output table is left aligned instead. Here’s the relevant section of the .tex document generated during PDF export:

\begin{table}[htbp]
\begin{center}
\begin{tabular}{rrlr}
\hline
Tier & Number & Total & \% of Total\\
\hline
1 & 4 & 8,700.00 & 57.39\\
2 & 19 & 5,398.00 & 35.61\\
3 & 24 & 1,061.40 & 7.00\\
\hline
Total & 47 & 15,159.40 & 100.00\\
\hline
\end{tabular}

\end{center}
\end{table}

What am I missing? If relevant, org-version returns

Org mode version 9.8-pre (release_9.7.18-223-g7ef659 @ /Users/stanton/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)

Thanks for any suggestions.

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* Re: How to specify column alignment in LaTeX table output?
  2025-01-09  9:38 How to specify column alignment in LaTeX table output? Richard H Stanton
@ 2025-01-09 10:17 ` Rens Oliemans
  2025-01-09 15:02   ` Richard H Stanton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Rens Oliemans @ 2025-01-09 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard H Stanton, emacs-orgmode

Richard H Stanton <rhstanton@berkeley.edu> writes:

> Here’s a table in my org document:
>
> #+ATTR_LATEX: :align rrrr :options [htbp]
> #+begin_table
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> |  Tier | Number |     Total | % of Total |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> |     1 |      4 |  8,700.00 |      57.39 |
> |     2 |     19 |  5,398.00 |      35.61 |
> |     3 |     24 |  1,061.40 |       7.00 |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> | Total |     47 | 15,159.40 |     100.00 |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> #+end_table
>
> I want all the columns to be right-aligned (as they are in the org document), but when exported to LaTeX/PDF, the “Total” column in the output table is left aligned instead. Here’s the relevant section of the .tex document generated during PDF export:

Remove the #+begin_table and #+end_table parts: table isn't a valid block type.
'C-C C-,' (org-insert-structure-template) shows you what blocks are valid.

A table is simply defined via lines starting with '|'. This should work:

#+ATTR_LATEX: :align rrrr
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
|  Tier | Number |     Total | % of Total |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
|     1 |      4 |  8,700.00 |      57.39 |
|     2 |     19 |  5,398.00 |      35.61 |
|     3 |     24 |  1,061.40 |       7.00 |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
| Total |     47 | 15,159.40 |     100.00 |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|

Also, I think your :options is a bit weird. Your exported LaTeX code seems fine,
but that's a side effect of you having the #+begin_table blocks, I _think_ Org
creates a special 'table' environment based on your block name ('table'), which
makes your :options work. See "(org) Special blocks in LaTeX export" in the
manual.

To make your desired placement work with a "correct" table, see "(org) Tables in
LaTeX export" and the documentation of ':placement':

    ‘:float’
    ‘:placement’
         The table environments by default are not floats in LaTeX.  To make
         them floating objects use ‘:float’ with one of the following
         options: ‘t’ (for a default ‘table’ environment), ‘sideways’ (for a
         ‘sidewaystable’ environment), ‘multicolumn’ (to span the table
         across multiple columns of a page in a ‘table*’ environment) and
         ‘nil’.  In addition to these three values, ‘:float’ can pass
         through any arbitrary value, for example a user-defined float type
         with the ‘float’ LaTeX package.

         LaTeX floats can also have additional layout ‘:placement’
         attributes.  These are the usual ‘[h t b p ! H]’ permissions
         specified in square brackets.  Note that for ‘:float sideways’
         tables, the LaTeX export backend ignores ‘:placement’ attributes.

I think that this org snippet is what you are looking for:

#+ATTR_LATEX: :align rrrr :float t :placement [htbp]
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
|  Tier | Number |     Total | % of Total |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
|     1 |      4 |  8,700.00 |      57.39 |
|     2 |     19 |  5,398.00 |      35.61 |
|     3 |     24 |  1,061.40 |       7.00 |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|
| Total |     47 | 15,159.40 |     100.00 |
|-------+--------+-----------+------------|

-- 
Best,
Rens


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* Re: How to specify column alignment in LaTeX table output?
  2025-01-09 10:17 ` Rens Oliemans
@ 2025-01-09 15:02   ` Richard H Stanton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Richard H Stanton @ 2025-01-09 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rens Oliemans; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

On Jan 9, 2025, at 2:17 AM, Rens Oliemans <hallo@rensoliemans.nl> wrote:
> 
> Richard H Stanton <rhstanton@berkeley.edu> writes:
> 
>> Here’s a table in my org document:
>> 
>> #+ATTR_LATEX: :align rrrr :options [htbp]
>> #+begin_table
>> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
>> |  Tier | Number |     Total | % of Total |
>> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
>> |     1 |      4 |  8,700.00 |      57.39 |
>> |     2 |     19 |  5,398.00 |      35.61 |
>> |     3 |     24 |  1,061.40 |       7.00 |
>> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
>> | Total |     47 | 15,159.40 |     100.00 |
>> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
>> #+end_table
>> 
>> I want all the columns to be right-aligned (as they are in the org document), but when exported to LaTeX/PDF, the “Total” column in the output table is left aligned instead. Here’s the relevant section of the .tex document generated during PDF export:
> 
> Remove the #+begin_table and #+end_table parts: table isn't a valid block type.
> 'C-C C-,' (org-insert-structure-template) shows you what blocks are valid.
> 
> A table is simply defined via lines starting with '|'. This should work:
> 
> #+ATTR_LATEX: :align rrrr
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> |  Tier | Number |     Total | % of Total |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> |     1 |      4 |  8,700.00 |      57.39 |
> |     2 |     19 |  5,398.00 |      35.61 |
> |     3 |     24 |  1,061.40 |       7.00 |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> | Total |     47 | 15,159.40 |     100.00 |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> 
> Also, I think your :options is a bit weird. Your exported LaTeX code seems fine,
> but that's a side effect of you having the #+begin_table blocks, I _think_ Org
> creates a special 'table' environment based on your block name ('table'), which
> makes your :options work. See "(org) Special blocks in LaTeX export" in the
> manual.
> 
> To make your desired placement work with a "correct" table, see "(org) Tables in
> LaTeX export" and the documentation of ':placement':
> 
>    ‘:float’
>    ‘:placement’
>         The table environments by default are not floats in LaTeX.  To make
>         them floating objects use ‘:float’ with one of the following
>         options: ‘t’ (for a default ‘table’ environment), ‘sideways’ (for a
>         ‘sidewaystable’ environment), ‘multicolumn’ (to span the table
>         across multiple columns of a page in a ‘table*’ environment) and
>         ‘nil’.  In addition to these three values, ‘:float’ can pass
>         through any arbitrary value, for example a user-defined float type
>         with the ‘float’ LaTeX package.
> 
>         LaTeX floats can also have additional layout ‘:placement’
>         attributes.  These are the usual ‘[h t b p ! H]’ permissions
>         specified in square brackets.  Note that for ‘:float sideways’
>         tables, the LaTeX export backend ignores ‘:placement’ attributes.
> 
> I think that this org snippet is what you are looking for:
> 
> #+ATTR_LATEX: :align rrrr :float t :placement [htbp]
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> |  Tier | Number |     Total | % of Total |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> |     1 |      4 |  8,700.00 |      57.39 |
> |     2 |     19 |  5,398.00 |      35.61 |
> |     3 |     24 |  1,061.40 |       7.00 |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> | Total |     47 | 15,159.40 |     100.00 |
> |-------+--------+-----------+------------|
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Rens

Thanks, Rens. That works and looks a lot neater than my version, which I arrived at through trial and (mostly) error...

I actually generate this table from a Python code block. In the past, I’ve often run into problems with raw output (like this), where running the code block multiple times causes the output to appear multiple times, rather than overwriting. I found that using :wrap seems to prevent this. I have no idea where “:wrap table” comes from, but org exported this without error, so I stopped thinking about it… Trying it with raw output just now, the table seems to be overwritten just fine when I run the code block multiple times. So maybe I don’t need to worry about this any more, but what are the recommended headers for a Python code block that exports a table? For example, ":results output raw” and ":results output drawer” both seem to work (without :wrap), while “:results output” puts everything in an example block, which then seems to get exported verbatim, not as a LaTeX table.

Best,

Richard






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