From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Torsten Wagner Subject: org-mode based groupware wiki Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:57:31 +0200 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f259d6c13c04e7e90140 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37949) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VS40l-0000w3-4X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 07:57:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VS40j-0003jL-Eg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 07:57:35 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::22d]:34702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VS40i-0003j3-VB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 07:57:33 -0400 Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id c50so1763396eek.18 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 04:57:31 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org Mode Mailing List --047d7b66f259d6c13c04e7e90140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, recently I discovered gollumn [1] and was amazed to see that there is a software which allows non-orgers to work with / read my org-files and which even use git as the backend to get all save and nice together, even if working concurrently on the same files. I was wondering, because I never read about gollum in this ML and my search only revealed a very short three year old thread between Bastien and Eric Schulte. Despite that many of us was asking of possible ways how to use org as a groupware like environment. I guess this topic was discussed even more frequently over the last three years. Unfortunately, the main drawback, the usage of org-ruby [2] as org-mode parser still remains. I frighten that org-ruby only works on a small subset of the org-mode syntax and that even this might be a bit out-of-date. As far as I understood, org-mode in the meantime switched to a new exporter [3] and we got org-elements [4] and a heavy work towards standardization thanks to Nicolas Goaziou. What would be the best way to get the best out of the gollum idea and the new org-mode capabilities? - Skip gollumn and use (an updated) blorgit [5] (Does it have editor functionality?) ? - Enhance org-ruby? - Write a small script which creates a native html export from org-mode and hook this into gollumn? However, that would require emacs and org-mode being installed on the server side. For me gollums most important feature would be that people could use their web-browser and edit org-files. It might not be the most comfortable way of editing a org-file but a simple adding of a row into a table or rephrasing or adding a paragraph would be totally possible. It even might help to introduce people into using emacs and org-mode. It would be really nice to have such an easy access to org-files. Even hard-core orgers might like the idea to e.g. access and lightly modify there org-files on-the-go via smartphones and tablets without running a full emacs session. (I am aware of Mobileorg ;) ) I got a bit into detail here to hopefully kick-off some discussions. All the best Torsten [1] https://github.com/gollum/gollum [2] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-ruby.html [3] http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-export-reference.html [4] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-api/org-element-api.html [5] http://orgmode.org/worg/blorgit.html --047d7b66f259d6c13c04e7e90140 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
recently I discovered gollumn [1] and was amazed to see that= there is a software which allows non-orgers to work with / read my org-fil= es and which even use git as the backend to get all save and nice together,= even if working concurrently on the same files.

I was wondering, because I never read about gollum in this ML and= my search only revealed a very short three year old thread between Bastien= and Eric Schulte. Despite that many of us was asking of possible ways how = to use org as a groupware like environment. I guess this topic was discusse= d even more frequently over the last three years.
Unfortunately, the main drawback, the usage of org-ruby [2] as org-mo= de parser still remains. I frighten that org-ruby only works on a small sub= set of the org-mode syntax and that even this might be a bit out-of-date. A= s far as I understood, org-mode in the meantime switched to a new exporter = [3] and we got org-elements [4] and a heavy work towards standardization th= anks to Nicolas Goaziou.

What would be the best way to get the best out of the gollum idea= and the new org-mode capabilities?

- Skip gollumn and use (an= updated) blorgit [5] (Does it have editor functionality?) ?
- Enh= ance org-ruby?
- Write a small script which creates a native html export from org-mo= de and hook this into gollumn? However, that would require emacs and org-mo= de being installed on the server side.

For me gollums most imp= ortant feature would be that people could use their web-browser and edit or= g-files. It might not be the most comfortable way of editing a org-file but= a simple adding of a row into a table or rephrasing or adding a paragraph = would be totally possible. It even might help to introduce people into usin= g emacs and org-mode.

It would be really nice to have such an easy access to org-files.= Even hard-core orgers might like the idea to e.g. access and lightly modif= y there org-files on-the-go via smartphones and tablets without running a f= ull emacs session. (I am aware of Mobileorg ;) )

I got a bit into detail here to hopefully kick-off some discussio= ns.

All the best

Torsten

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