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From: Torsten Wagner <torsten.wagner@gmail.com>
To: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
Cc: Org Mode Mailing List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: are super-hidden technical blocks required?
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 22:20:25 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPaq-gNHAyihsRi+FtKYJMWL=HBCb8OY30X2E+e+JR4+o2H5VQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87628vxapb.fsf@gnu.org>

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Hey Bastien,

On 7 August 2012 19:23, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> that a drawer doesn't make an
> entry non-empty while cycling,

ohhh you challenge us... "does not ... non-empty".... is in fact the
same like "if there is only a drawer, the entry is still empty"....
right ?!

Yes, I agree that should be separated.

Maybe an idea would be a rule like....
if all properties in a drawer are marked as hidden and there is
nothing else for the particular entry (no body), do not open the entry
for the next cycling rounds.
I just tested a bit and org-mode is clever enough already to avoid any
text-insertion before the property drawer if text get added to a
collapsed entry.
Thus, this rule just might work and hide "technical" properties
completely during cycling.
Combined with a #+HIDDEN_PROP: line each and everyone can adjust
individually how much and what he likes to hide.

#+HIDDEN_PROP: * <----- all properties are hidden
would be the extreme and all property drawers will be hidden in case
they are the only element of a entry. In case other elements are
included, they collapsed drawer line will be dimmed by a different
face to indicate that only "hidden" properties are included

#+HIDDEN_PROP:    <---- this means no properties are hidden
would be the other extreme and nothing would be hidden (that
essentially would represent the present state).

I created two mock-ups. One shows the present solution and the other
shows how certain properties can be marked "hidden" and which effect
does this have on different level and combinations. Hope that helps
within this discussion. I choose a arbitrary colour scheme to make it
rather good visible.

Torsten

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-07 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-30  2:26 are super-hidden technical blocks required? Torsten Wagner
2012-07-30  7:26 ` Bastien
2012-07-30 10:27   ` Rasmus
2012-07-30 14:27     ` Russell Adams
     [not found]   ` <CAPaq-gMV-+n6OAN4PnBsh1eiJ5wA=Ns_m_qwHqz1pxbOxeYCCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-07-31  2:04     ` Fwd: " Torsten Wagner
2012-07-30 14:42 ` Ivy Foster
2012-07-30 15:23   ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-07-31 13:23     ` Robert Horn
2012-07-31 13:47       ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-04 18:10       ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-05  9:16         ` Bastien
2012-08-05 20:04           ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-05 22:20             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-08-05 22:50               ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06  2:46                 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-06  3:01                   ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06 12:12                     ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-08-06 17:25                       ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-06 18:16         ` Allen S. Rout
2012-08-06 19:01           ` Michael Brand
2012-08-07 21:29           ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-07-31  2:48 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-01 13:29   ` Bastien
2012-08-02  1:19     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-06 15:02       ` Christopher J. White
2012-08-01 17:11   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-01 18:39     ` Bernt Hansen
2012-08-01 18:49       ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-02  1:16     ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-02 15:10       ` Bastien
2012-08-07 21:33         ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2012-08-02 13:01   ` babel awk with table input: Code block produced no output Greg Minshall
2012-08-02 13:21     ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-08-03  2:08     ` [BUG] Traceback on Org-Export Luis Anaya
2012-08-03  7:19       ` Bastien
2012-08-03 10:27         ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-04 13:06           ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-04 14:13             ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-04 17:58             ` Bastien
2012-08-04 21:07               ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-05  9:44                 ` Bastien
2012-08-05 15:44                   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-03 10:43         ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-03 11:17           ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2012-08-03 11:32             ` Luis Anaya
2012-08-03 14:34               ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-03 20:09           ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-05 23:57     ` babel awk with table input: Code block produced no output Greg Minshall
2012-08-06  1:36       ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-08-06  4:59         ` Greg Minshall
2012-08-06 15:37       ` Change: no longer automatically evaluate embedded elisp in code block output Was: " Eric Schulte
2012-08-08  5:00         ` Greg Minshall
2012-08-07  3:12 ` are super-hidden technical blocks required? Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 10:23   ` Bastien
2012-08-07 13:20     ` Torsten Wagner [this message]
2012-08-07 13:39       ` Christopher J. White
2012-08-07 14:11         ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-07 14:30           ` Robert Horn
2012-08-14  9:58       ` Bastien

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