From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Torsten Wagner Subject: Re: org-mode based groupware wiki Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:30:25 +0200 Message-ID: References: <878uy9jfps.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603dcc1d049004e872ee95 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34771) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUY7C-0004wp-GG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:30:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUY79-00059g-Cs for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:30:30 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::236]:46951) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUY79-00059I-0O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:30:27 -0400 Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id o10so1705334eaj.27 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 01:30:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric Schulte Cc: Org Mode Mailing List --047d7b603dcc1d049004e872ee95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Eric, still trying to figure out whats wrong with my set-up. Did you had time to look intio it. It seems somehow elnode does not play well anymore with the current version of ehtml. Or something like this. I can access elnodes standard services and I can create new services like described in the elnode wiki. However, following the README of ehtml. I receive the early posted error message. This is not an emacs-based error or any sort of crash. It seems to be something which is "well" handled by elnodes error catching. Would be glad if you could give us some advice how to deal with that or how to test further. We are in the middle of setting up a groupware wiki. Two of us are org-mode users and the others do not really care what markup-language that might have to use. Thus, it gives us the comfort to stick with org-mode and we only have to decide to go the ehtml/emacs way or the gollum/org-ruby way. Even more luckily this is not a decision forever, since the files remain to be native org-files on both systems, I believe we could switch at anytime. This is again a nice example of the pure text based org-mode paradigm. Thanks Torsten On 7 October 2013 17:02, Torsten Wagner wrote: > Hi Eric, > > thanks for the email. I will give org-ehtml a try. Do you still actively > maintain it. We would rely rather heavily on it ( a group of about 10 > people) and I would be happy to know that I do not ride a dead horse. On > the other hand you get a bunch of beta-testers ;) > > Could you agree with the following comparison: > > * gollum > - standalone application, based on git and org-ruby. > - can use different makeup-languages > - can be integrated in a larger environment (read something about using > Apache Webserver) > - enables the creation and editing of pages via webbrowser (a minimal > org-mode editor is available) > - basic settings of the theme (top, footer, sidebar). > > * org-ehtml > - part of org-mode requires emacs and elnode > - makes use of the new exporter > - ... > > ... because I tried to give it a test but it did not work out. > I tried a test instance via the following commands (and its outputs) > > (ert "org-ehtml") > -> > Selector: "org-ehtml" > Passed: 0 > Failed: 0 > Total: 0/0 > > Started at: 2013-10-07 16:44:00+0200 > Finished. > Finished at: 2013-10-07 16:44:00+0200 > > (setq org-ehtml-docroot "/home/torsten/test-wiki/") > -> > "/home/torsten/test-wiki/" > > (elnode-start 'org-ehtml-handler :port 8888) > -> > ((8888 . #)) > > When I start it according to the README, all I get when calling > http://localhost:8888/simple.org is: > >

Server error

> > No errors are given in any log-buffer I could find. > > Not sure where the problem appears. A test of elnode according to the > elnode README worked out ok > > (defun my-test-handler (httpcon) > "Demonstration function" > (elnode-http-start httpcon 200 '("Content-type" . "text/html")) > (elnode-http-return httpcon "HELLO!")) > > (elnode-start 'my-test-handler :port 8010 :host "localhost") > > > Might it be, that the elnode API changed and that the handler function > need some rewrite? > > All the best > > Torsten > > > > On 4 October 2013 16:03, Eric Schulte wrote: > >> Check out org-ehtml. See the original announcement [1] and the repo on >> github [2]. It might need some attention as the Org-mode export API is >> constantly in flux, but it does work to allow editing of Org-mode pages >> through a web page. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Footnotes: >> [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/58773/focus=58884 >> >> [2] https://github.com/eschulte/org-ehtml >> >> -- >> Eric Schulte >> https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte >> PGP: 0x614CA05D >> > > --047d7b603dcc1d049004e872ee95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eric,
<= br>
still trying to figure out whats wrong with my set-up. Did you had= time to look intio it.
It seems somehow elnode does not play well= anymore with the current version of ehtml.
Or something like this.
I can access elnodes standard servic= es and I can create new services like described in the elnode wiki.
However, following the README of ehtml. I receive the early posted error = message. This is not an emacs-based error or any sort of crash. It seems to= be something which is "well" handled by elnodes error catching.<= br>
Would be glad if you could give us some advice how to deal with t= hat or how to test further. We are in the middle of setting up a groupware = wiki. Two of us are org-mode users and the others do not really care what m= arkup-language that might have to use. Thus, it gives us the comfort to sti= ck with org-mode and we only have to decide to go the ehtml/emacs way or th= e gollum/org-ruby way. Even more luckily this is not a decision forever, si= nce the files remain to be native org-files on both systems, I believe we c= ould switch at anytime.
This is again a nice example of the pure text based org-mode paradigm= .

Thanks

Torsten


On 7 October 2013 17:02, Torsten Wa= gner <torsten.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,
thanks for the email. I will give org-ehtml a try. Do you still = actively maintain it. We would rely rather heavily on it ( a group of about= 10 people) and I would be happy to know that I do not ride a dead horse. O= n the other hand you get a bunch of beta-testers ;)

Could you agree with the following comparison:

=
* gollum
- standalone application, based on git and org-= ruby.
- can use different makeup-languages
- can be integrated in a larger environment (read something about using Apa= che Webserver)
- enables the creation and editing of pages vi= a webbrowser (a minimal org-mode editor is available)
- basic= settings of the theme (top, footer, sidebar).

* org-ehtml
- part of org-mode requires emacs and = elnode
- makes use of the new exporter
- ...
... because I tried to give it a test but it did not work o= ut.
I tried a test instance via the following commands (and its outp= uts)

(ert "org-ehtml")
->
Selector: "org-eht= ml"
Passed: 0
Failed: 0
Total:=A0 0/0

Started at:=A0= =A0 2013-10-07 16:44:00+0200
Finished.
Finished at:=A0 2013-10-07 16:44:00+0200

(setq org-ehtm= l-docroot "/home/torsten/test-wiki/")
->
"/home/tor= sten/test-wiki/"

(elnode-start 'org-ehtml-handler :port 888= 8)
->
((8888 . #<process *elnode-webserver-proc*>))
=
When I start it according to the README, all I get when calling http://localhost:88= 88/simple.org is:

<h1>Server error</h1>
No errors are given in any log-buffer I could find.

Not sure where the problem appears. A test of elnode according to the = elnode README worked out ok
(defun my-test-handler (http=
con)
  "Demonstration function"
  (elnode-http-start httpcon 200 '("Content-type" . "tex=
t/html"))
  (elnode-http-return httpcon "<html><b>HELLO!</b>&l=
t;/html>"))

(elnode-start 'my-test-handler :port 8010 :h=
ost "localhost")

Might it be, that the elnode= API changed and that the handler function need some rewrite?=A0

All the best

Torsten



On 4 October 2013 16:03= , Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
Check out org-ehtml. =A0See the original ann= ouncement [1] and the repo on
github [2]. =A0It might need some attention as the Org-mode export API is constantly in flux, but it does work to allow editing of Org-mode pages
through a web page.

Cheers,

Footnotes:
[1] =A0http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/587= 73/focus=3D58884

[2] =A0= https://github.com/eschulte/org-ehtml

--
Eric Schulte
https://cs.unm.e= du/~eschulte
PGP: 0x614CA05D


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