From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Torsten Wagner Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2012 Student Application Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:46:51 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87398i65e7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SFhPL-00077v-6j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:47:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SFhPD-0001rs-O8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:47:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87398i65e7.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andrew Young Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Carsten Dominik Hi Andrew, Reading this proposal and having a bit background in writing proposals, I have the following suggestion: * I'm not sure everyone (at least the one who review this) know what org-mode is. There should be a very small summary about org-mode and the key-benefit being plain text (which is why you can start this project after all). * In the way the proposal is written, you address org-mode users which uses git (later you mention other CVS too). This actually makes, or at least sound like, the proposal being only useful for a (small) intersection of users namely org-mode AND (in the sense of an logic AND) git-user. I would find it more useful to describe this work as being an extension for org-mode users; ** They can start to collaborate on a org-mode files, including collaboration with users of possible other software tools (e.g. mobileorg apps). ** Org-mode user can use a CVS system which is not only of interest for collaboration but for keeping a chronological order of changes in e.g. a project file. ** It makes org-mode a possible tool for software developers which can now use org-files e.g. for documentation and notes beside there source code in the same git repository. All this points would show that the proposal is going to extend org-mode instead of being "limited" useful for only a very particular user-base. Finally, I guess it would be good to mention that this project (and org-mode in general) is not limited to a OS but attracts users of MS Windows, Mac OS and Linux. Simply to demonstrate that the user-base can be expected to be rather large. (Not sure if the GNU people like this ;) ) Torsten On 5 April 2012 15:48, Bastien wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Andrew Young writes: > >> My name is Andrew Young, and I would like to participate in an Org-Mode >> project for GSoC 2012. =A0My application for the project 'Git merge tool= for >> Org files' can be found >> here. > > Great! > >> =A0I would appreciate as much feedback and criticism as possible. > > First of all, make sure someone can co-mentor this project. =A0I'm willin= g > to mentor this (as the current maintainer it makes sense, especially for > people judging the project from the outside), but having Carsten as a > co-mentor would be a great win. =A0Make sure Carsten (cc'ed) is okay. > > Carsten, being a co-mentor involves mainly three things: > > 1. registering on google-melange.com > > 2. from there, requesting to be a mentor for the GNU project > > 3. during the project, help the student and have IRC/phone meetings, > =A0 at least when I'm not here (I expect to be off for 2-3 weeks this > =A0 summer, I will tell when ASAP) > >> I used the generic GNU Project student application template, which can b= e >> found here . > > 1. First things thing: you should rewrite the "summary" section to > =A0 remove the "I believe" and other informal writing from Carsten's > =A0 prose. =A0Make it yours, make it a real summary. > > 2. Refer to org-element.el when you mention the Data representation. > =A0 org-element.el will be key in representing data and diffs between > =A0 data (at any level.) > > 3. Add a documentation section, explaining what doc you will write and > =A0 how you you will write/host it (worg is fine.) > >> I have some specific questions: >> 1. =A0There is no implementation details or decisions in my application,= just >> a basic plan of what needs to be done. =A0Should I start researching >> implementation details for my application? > > You can look at org-element.el for the data representation. > >> 2. =A0I would like to post my application on the community site Worg. = =A0If >> this is appropriate, what is the proper channel to request GIT access? > > Send me your public key. > >> If this mailing list is not the appropriate place to discuss my >> application, please let me know and then feel free to email me directly.= =A0I >> will also be spending as much time as possible on freenode #org-mode as >> Pwyl. > > This mailing list *is* the appropriate place, no worry. > > Thanks again for your proposal, this would be a great plus for Org! > > Best, > > -- > =A0Bastien >