From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Reuben Thomas Subject: Remove Org from Emacs repository? Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:43:13 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114f5c2e7201070543e26960 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cINhF-0008CJ-0M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:43:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cINhD-0005gZ-Nj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:43:17 -0500 Received: from mail-qk0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f]:34880) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cINhD-0005fx-HQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:43:15 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id n204so125778364qke.2 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:43:14 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --001a114f5c2e7201070543e26960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from Emacs's source repository? The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el, and I see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and distinct to be swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to keep its current half-in, half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to take it out. I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I will ask the Emacs maintainers separately for their perspective. I think it would benefit Emacs too, as there would be less code to maintain (even though Org is quasi-external at present, it still has to build successfully as part of an Emacs build), and the Emacs distribution would be slimmer for non-Org users. Of course, Emacs "distributions" would still be able to include Org out-of-the box if they wished. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --001a114f5c2e7201070543e26960 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now= that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable direc= tly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from Emacs's s= ource repository?

The current situation is left over from before Emacs = had package.el, and I see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big a= nd distinct to be swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to kee= p its current half-in, half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to ta= ke it out.

I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I wil= l ask the Emacs maintainers separately for their perspective.

I think it would benefit Emacs too= , as there would be less code to maintain (even though Org is quasi-externa= l at present, it still has to build successfully as part of an Emacs build)= , and the Emacs distribution would be slimmer for non-Org users.

Of course, Emacs "distribution= s" would still be able to include Org out-of-the box if they wished.

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