From: "András Simonyi" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>
To: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>,
"András Simonyi" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>,
"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:55:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOWRwxDc0sAiohpoG4nupYk7LD4HuirOE57cmDH3rc50A3ZGzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dkt2pce.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Dear All,
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 13:49, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> I went ahead and implemented `org-cite-wrap-citation' function in
> "oc.el" (from wip-cite-new branch). Here's a quick demo.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (defun ngz-cite-demo-export-citation (citation &rest _)
> (unless (org-cite-inside-footnote-p citation)
> (org-cite-wrap-citation citation))
> "(Doe, 1999)")
>
> (org-cite-register-processor 'demo
> :export-citation #'ngz-cite-demo-export-citation)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> When I export the following document to ASCII
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> #+cite_export: demo
>
> Regular footnote[fn:1].
>
> Reference outside footnote: [cite:@key]
>
> Footnote with a reference[fn:2].
>
> [fn:1] Definition 1
>
> [fn:2] Reference [cite:@key].
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> I get
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Regular footnote[1].
>
> Reference outside footnote: [2]
>
> Footnote with a reference[3].
> Footnotes
> ─────────
>
> [1] Definition 1
>
> [2] (Doe, 1999)
>
> [3] Reference (Doe, 1999).
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Thank you, this is very promising! I've checked the behaviour of
citeproc-org with and without a note style now and there is only one
additional minor difference which I forgot to mention, I don't know
how difficult would it be to implement it: When a citation is wrapped
into an anonymous footnote because a note style is used then the space
between the citation and the previous token (if there was one) is
removed. So for the fragment (using cite links for now)
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
text1 cite:Smullyan-1995-Logic text2[fn::text3 cite:Sierpinski-1965-Card text4]
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
exporting to text with he Chicago author-date CSL style produces the output
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
text1 (Smullyan, 1995) text2[1]
Footnotes
─────────
[1] text3 (Sierpiński, 1965) text4
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
while with the Chicago fullnote style
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
text1[1] text2[2]
Footnotes
─────────
[1] Raymond M. Smullyan, /First-Order Logic/, 2nd, corrected ed. (Dover,
1995).
[2] text3 Wacław Sierpiński, /Cardinal and Ordinal Numbers/, 2nd,
revised ed. (PWN–Polish Scientific Publishers, 1965). text4
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
I think this is important for making it possible to switch between
note and non-note export styles without changing the Org document, and
would be very interested to hear your and other list members' views
on this.
thanks & best regards,
András
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-23 12:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-07 15:15 wip-cite status question and feedback Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 17:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-07 18:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 18:31 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 21:13 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-08 0:01 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-08 9:16 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-08 9:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-08 12:19 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-08 13:39 ` John Kitchin
2020-04-08 16:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 7:38 ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-04-09 9:30 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 9:46 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 10:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 23:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-10 1:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-10 5:38 ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-04-11 11:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 12:05 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-04-13 12:33 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-24 12:12 ` Bastien
2020-05-24 13:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-29 21:59 ` András Simonyi
2020-05-29 22:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-29 22:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-06-03 14:40 ` Bastien
2020-06-03 14:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-12-14 21:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-03-24 13:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-03-24 18:27 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-11 23:15 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-12 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-12 18:53 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-16 17:05 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-16 17:23 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-18 13:11 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-18 13:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-04-18 13:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-21 19:57 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:09 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-21 20:57 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:26 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 2:47 ` Timothy
2021-04-22 12:07 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 12:34 ` Timothy
2021-04-21 21:47 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-21 23:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-22 0:01 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 0:15 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 11:49 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 12:55 ` András Simonyi [this message]
2021-04-23 13:10 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-23 13:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-23 14:50 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-23 22:08 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 17:37 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-24 17:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-24 18:39 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26 14:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26 20:35 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 10:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 10:20 ` Timothy
2021-04-27 11:44 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 12:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 13:58 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 14:07 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 14:50 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-30 13:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-30 21:47 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-01 11:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-01 13:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-02 21:58 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-02 22:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-02 23:30 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-05 13:46 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-05 18:14 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-05-05 18:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-06 17:05 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-05-06 8:08 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-24 13:14 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 12:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 13:34 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-17 19:13 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-18 16:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 13:32 ` Matt Price
2021-04-21 17:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-21 17:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
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2020-04-10 9:29 denis.maier.lists
2020-04-10 12:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-10 22:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-11 21:42 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-11 22:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 10:38 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 11:15 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 14:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 14:25 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 15:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 15:44 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 15:57 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 17:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 20:49 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-12 22:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13 8:33 ` Stefan Nobis
2020-04-13 10:02 ` Denis Maier
2020-04-13 10:11 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 10:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 10:14 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 9:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 10:09 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 10:10 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-13 10:46 ` Stefan Nobis
2020-04-15 5:54 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-15 10:07 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-18 9:34 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-18 10:56 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 12:48 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-18 13:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 13:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 20:23 ` Denis Maier
2020-04-18 20:28 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-19 9:11 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-25 16:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-25 17:00 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-25 20:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-25 21:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-01 17:38 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-05-01 17:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-02 14:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
[not found] ` <2fbf14cf-ae8c-4f7c-27f7-33771aa99492@mailbox.org>
2020-05-02 16:34 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 17:24 ` Denis Maier
2020-05-02 13:13 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 13:45 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-02 20:45 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-29 9:14 ` Denis Maier
2020-05-02 9:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 11:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 20:38 ` Joost Kremers
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