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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0C8E6650A2 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.81 X-Spam-Score: -9.81 X-TUID: hOaQHX4iTFoR --0000000000001368a70621aab291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Ahh, sorry... Look at the docstring for `org-latex-engraved-preamble', for example. And then, there are other places where it is not mentioned explicitly, but not including it may result in a compilation error (`org-latex-listings-src-omit-language', for example) It could also help a lot in `org-latex-src-block-backend': there we ask to load package color... why not xcolor to get a richer control of colours? Best, /PA On Mon, 9 Sept 2024 at 08:04, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > > > Would the description of the package at https://ctan.org/pkg/xcolor be > > enough? > > Additionally, there is a nice discussion at > > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/89763/when-to-use-the-xcolor-package-instead-of-the-color-package > > That's not what I am asking about. > I am asking about the docs for _Org mode_. > > I am sure that xcolor is a nice package and that it can be useful in > many scenarios, but I do not see why we should load it every single time > Org mode export is running. > > -- > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode contributor, > Learn more about Org mode at . > Support Org development at , > or support my work at > -- Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet --0000000000001368a70621aab291 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ahh, sorry...

Look at the docstring for= `org-latex-engraved-p= reamble', for example. And then, there are other places where it is not= mentioned explicitly, but not including it may result in a compilation err= or (`org-latex-= listings-src-omit-language', for example)
It could also help a lot in `org-latex-src-block= -backend': there we ask to load package color... why not xcolor to get = a richer control of colours?

Best, /PA

On Mon, 9 Sept 2024 at 08:04,= Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.= net> wrote:
Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com> writes:

> Would the description of the package at https://ctan.org/pkg/xcolor<= /a> be
> enough?
> Additionally, there is a nice discussion at
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/89763/when-to-use-the-x= color-package-instead-of-the-color-package

That's not what I am asking about.
I am asking about the docs for _Org mode_.

I am sure that xcolor is a nice package and that it can be useful in
many scenarios, but I do not see why we should load it every single time Org mode export is running.

--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,=
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


--
Fragen sind nicht da, um bea= ntwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
= Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should ru= n a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

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