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From: Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com>
To: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Cc: org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Anders Johansson <mejlaandersj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Exporting to pandoc md (and from there to zotero odt)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 11:49:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN_Dec_4_w0K2da00VcnP0Lo49cK3SRfuV4XLF8JEpMyf2j6vA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Dec8cTHBCfEtMiTSWp9P6PBBKvXa6HQJ1p4HyH1M-RmYBwA@mail.gmail.com>

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Anders, I just want to say that I tested this out and it works great. It's
quite shocking, actually, to have such an easy path from org to odt with
live citations.  I'd love to see this stuff in MELPA or otherwise made more
generally accessible, as i think it fills a substantial need.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 2:29 PM Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anders, just to be clear:  with your new exporters I can, as of today,
> insert the new [cite:@citekey] links using a better-bibtex-generated
> bibliography file, export to odt via pandoc, and then manage my citations
> with zotero in the resultant odt?
>
> it so... cool.
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 4:04 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cool!
>>
>> We should also get pandoc to support updated org-cite syntax.
>>
>> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7329
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 12:57 PM Anders Johansson <mejlaandersj@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I appreciate the work done on the cite functionality!
>>> I use zotero for managing my library and have previously used zotxt
>>> and org-zotxt (along with some additions in my zotxt-extra library)
>>> for being able to cite in org-mode and export correctly to various
>>> formats.
>>> https://gitlab.com/egh/zotxt
>>> https://gitlab.com/egh/zotxt-emacs
>>> https://gitlab.com/andersjohansson/emacs-zotxt-extra
>>>
>>> Zotxt has used a custom link format for citations (similar to org-ref)
>>> which links to zotero but optionally also contains a citekey (defined
>>> via the zotero-better-bibtex extension to zotero). I actually wrote my
>>> PhD thesis with this setup, but the connection to Zotero has always
>>> felt a little wobbly and Zotero is also quite slow for my large
>>> library.
>>>
>>> Now seems to be a great time to convert to a workflow with the new
>>> cite format. To enable a conversion from org mode to word processors
>>> with Zotero ”active” citations I created two libraries to manage this
>>> via pandoc and the pandoc filter created for the zotero-better-bibtex
>>> extension.
>>> (see: https://retorque.re/zotero-better-bibtex/exporting/pandoc/)
>>>
>>> This allows me a workflow like:
>>> 1. keep an updated  .bib-file of my library in zotero (with the help
>>> of zotero-better-bibtex)
>>> 2. cite in org-mode (for me with completion via helm-bibtex and
>>> https://github.com/bdarcus/bibtex-actions/pull/113)
>>> 3. Export to an odt-file with active zotero citations (with oc-pandoc
>>> and ox-md-pandoc-zotero)
>>>
>>> I attach them here in case anyone else finds some part of this workflow
>>> usable.
>>> https://gitlab.com/andersjohansson/org-cite-pandoc
>>> https://gitlab.com/andersjohansson/ox-md-pandoc-zotero
>>>
>>> I couldn’t find any previous definitions for exporting to the pandoc
>>> cite format so I quickly hacked up org-cite-pandoc. I suppose it could
>>> be be widely useful and included in org. Feel free to use it as
>>> suitable (I have FSF copyright assignment for emacs).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Anders Johansson
>>>
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-02 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-23 19:56 [wip-cite-new] Exporting to pandoc md (and from there to zotero odt) Anders Johansson
2021-06-23 20:02 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-29 18:29   ` Matt Price
2021-07-02 15:49     ` Matt Price [this message]
2021-07-02 22:10       ` Anders Johansson
2022-03-10 19:50         ` Anders Johansson

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