From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Price Subject: Re: Citation syntax: now supported in Pandoc Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:25:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87fumlc413.fsf@aquinas.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11452d144353d705429a707a Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37251) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCTFK-0004hW-Kl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:26:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCTFI-0007hy-Uv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:26:02 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]:33419) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCTFI-0007gb-KI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:26:00 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id j65so429080508iof.0 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 07:26:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Cc: Org Mode --001a11452d144353d705429a707a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard, is wip-cite up to date with recent git versions of org-mode? I'd like ot try it out but would rather not go back to a pre-9.0 version or org, having done a certain amount of work to update to the new framework... Thanks! On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Julian M. Burgos wrote: > This is very interesting! I will give it a try. Thanks for the heads up. > > > Richard Lawrence writes: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > With Org 9.0 out, I thought it might be a good time to revisit the issu= e > > of citation syntax. Not much has happened with this recently, but I do > > have one bit of progress to report: > > > > About six months ago, Albert Krewinkel, who maintains the support for O= rg > > syntax in Pandoc [1], wrote to me about supporting the citation syntax > > we discussed previously, and that is partially implemented in > > the wip-cite branch. You can see examples of the syntax at [2]. > > > > Albert dove in, and was able to quickly add support for the syntax to > > Pandoc's Org reader. This support has been merged into released > > versions of Pandoc. Albert actually announced this a few months ago on > > Reddit [3], but it looks like he did not email this list. > > > > I finally got a chance to check out his work yesterday. I converted on= e > > citation-heavy chapter of my dissertation to use the new syntax, and > > tested out Pandoc's support, with a couple of different CSL stylesheets= , > > including a note-based style. It works great. Thanks, Albert, for you= r > > hard work! > > > > There are some minor issues that probably need more discussion after > > real-world use (like whether/when a conjunction should be inserted > > automatically before the last reference in a multi-cite citation). But > > as far as I can tell, Albert has correctly implemented everything we > > actually discussed and agreed on. > > > > In short, Pandoc now has support for Org citation syntax, and that > > support is fully integrated with Pandoc's citation processing > > capabilities. So there is now at least one "real" (non-prototype) > > solution for processing Org citations via CSL, with output to HTML, > > LaTeX, ODT, .docx, and the other formats that Pandoc supports. > > > > This makes it a lot easier for people to test out the syntax in the rea= l > > world, so I encourage you to do so, and report back on what you find! > > > > Best, > > Richard > > > > [1] http://pandoc.org/ > > [2] https://github.com/wyleyr/org-citeproc/blob/master/tests/testdoc.or= g > > [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/4tes4x/ann_ > pandoc_v1172_has_been_released_it_now/ > > > -- > Julian Mariano Burgos, PhD > Hafranns=C3=B3knastofnun, ranns=C3=B3kna- og r=C3=A1=C3=B0gjafarstofnun h= afs og vatna/ > Marine and Freshwater Research Institute > Sk=C3=BAlagata 4, 121 Reykjav=C3=ADk, Iceland > S=C3=ADmi/Telephone : +354-5752037 > Br=C3=A9fs=C3=ADmi/Telefax: +354-5752001 > Netfang/Email: julian.burgos@hafogvatn.is > > --001a11452d144353d705429a707a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Richard, is wip-cite up to date with recent git versi= ons of org-mode? I'd like ot try it out but would rather not go back to= a pre-9.0 version or org, having done a certain amount of work to update t= o the new framework...

Thanks!

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Julian= M. Burgos <julian.burgos@hafogvatn.is> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This is very interesting! I will give it a tr= y. Thanks for the heads up.


Richard Lawrence writes:

> Hi everyone,
>
> With Org 9.0 out, I thought it might be a good time to revisit the iss= ue
> of citation syntax.=C2=A0 Not much has happened with this recently, bu= t I do
> have one bit of progress to report:
>
> About six months ago, Albert Krewinkel, who maintains the support for = Org
> syntax in Pandoc [1], wrote to me about supporting the citation syntax=
> we discussed previously, and that is partially implemented in
> the wip-cite branch.=C2=A0 You can see examples of the syntax at [2].<= br> >
> Albert dove in, and was able to quickly add support for the syntax to<= br> > Pandoc's Org reader.=C2=A0 This support has been merged into relea= sed
> versions of Pandoc.=C2=A0 Albert actually announced this a few months = ago on
> Reddit [3], but it looks like he did not email this list.
>
> I finally got a chance to check out his work yesterday.=C2=A0 I conver= ted one
> citation-heavy chapter of my dissertation to use the new syntax, and > tested out Pandoc's support, with a couple of different CSL styles= heets,
> including a note-based style.=C2=A0 It works great.=C2=A0 Thanks, Albe= rt, for your
> hard work!
>
> There are some minor issues that probably need more discussion after > real-world use (like whether/when a conjunction should be inserted
> automatically before the last reference in a multi-cite citation).=C2= =A0 But
> as far as I can tell, Albert has correctly implemented everything we > actually discussed and agreed on.
>
> In short, Pandoc now has support for Org citation syntax, and that
> support is fully integrated with Pandoc's citation processing
> capabilities.=C2=A0 So there is now at least one "real" (non= -prototype)
> solution for processing Org citations via CSL, with output to HTML, > LaTeX, ODT, .docx, and the other formats that Pandoc supports.
>
> This makes it a lot easier for people to test out the syntax in the re= al
> world, so I encourage you to do so, and report back on what you find!<= br> >
> Best,
> Richard
>
> [1] http://pandoc.org/
> [2] https://github.com/wyle= yr/org-citeproc/blob/master/tests/testdoc.org
> [3] = https://www.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/4tes4x/ann_pandoc_v1172= _has_been_released_it_now/


--
Julian Mariano Burgos, PhD
Hafranns=C3=B3knastofnun, ranns=C3=B3kna- og r=C3=A1=C3=B0gjafarstofnun haf= s og vatna/
Marine and Freshwater Research Institute
Sk=C3=BAlagata 4, 121 Reykjav=C3=ADk, Iceland
S=C3=ADmi/Telephone : = +354-5752037
Br=C3=A9fs=C3=ADmi/Telefax:=C2=A0 +354-5752001
Netfang/Email: julian.burgos@= hafogvatn.is


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