From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Price Subject: Re: exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <878ugo8i60.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0f666ab3c72050da28d95 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59531) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YG6YN-0006GO-3u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:51:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YG6YL-000567-KK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:51:38 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]:63354) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YG6YL-000563-CT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:51:37 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l4so13196987lbv.3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 05:51:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <878ugo8i60.fsf@gmx.us> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org Mode --047d7bf0f666ab3c72050da28d95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rasmus wrote: > Hi, > > Christian Moe writes: > > IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a > real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backend > support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess). > > #+begin_rant > > The current state is a mess and not portable. E.g. there's at least two > Zotero projects, there's John Kitchin's code, there's ox-bibtex.el (which > IMO is not suitable for complicated citation requirements), plus everyone > and their mother's have got custom citation links in their config via > custom org link types... > > /Proper/ citation support (not links) is, IMO, the last thing that is > missing for good academic publishing support. > > #+end_rant > > =E2=80=94Rasmus > (I know about zotxt -- is there another zotero project?) I am certainly not the person to implement anything "properly!" But I do agree -- if we had great citation support, with bibtex and Zotero undrestood as portable backends, then (a) i would really be able to work in org start to finish, and (b) I could start to recommend it to colleagues, as I'm itching to do. In the meantime, I think zotxt is the best starting point for me. But I would certainly be willing to test, debug, contribute minor patches, etc. to anyone who wants to take the project on properly (it is almost certainly beyond my limited skills). --047d7bf0f666ab3c72050da28d95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rasmus= <r= asmus@gmx.us> wrote:
Hi,

Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> writes:

 IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a
real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good back= end
support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess).

#+begin_rant

The current state is a mess and not portable.=C2=A0 E.g. there's at lea= st two
Zotero projects, there's John Kitchin's code, there's ox-bibtex= .el (which
IMO is not suitable for complicated citation requirements), plus everyone and their mother's have got custom citation links in their config via custom org link types...

/Proper/ citation support (not links) is, IMO, the last thing that is
missing for good academic publishing support.

#+end_rant

=E2=80=94Rasmus

(I know about zotxt -= - is there another zotero project?)

I am certainly not the person to implement anything "properly!" Bu= t I do=20 agree -- if we had great citation support, with bibtex and Zotero=20 undrestood as portable backends, then (a) i would really be able to=20 work in org start to finish, and (b) I could start to recommend it to=20 colleagues, as I'm itching to do.=C2=A0

In the meantime, = I think zotxt is the best starting point for me.=C2=A0 But I would certainly= =20 be willing to test, debug, contribute minor patches, etc. to anyone who=20 wants to take the project on properly (it is almost certainly beyond my=20 limited skills).=C2=A0
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