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From: Jens Lange <jens.lange.de@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug: org-emphasis-alist not fully applied [9.1.1 (9.1.1-1-g80cbf9-elpa @ x:/folder/user/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170918/)]
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:42:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN9DXH2Xwf+9GGcPrpXFeTFUMeCrxUHtyjduDAYG0Z49FpaJ4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vaka5s7k.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

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Nicolas,

I understand the dilemma. But then I must ask for a format enhancment.
Before crying out loud please read my argumentation. Why did I create my
own "fancy" markers? Because there is no default way to recreate the
"Textmarker-Experience" - or at least I couldn't find any. All default
emphasis markers recreate what I would call the "Ballpoint-Experience".
This puzzles me because marking text on a piece of paper is one of the most
basic things. Do I have a point here or not?

I just opened my pen-drawer and took out the text-markers. I found (the
typical) neon-yellow, neon-green, neon-pink and neon-blue. How about adding
four markers using something like "org-emphasis-colours-alist" and let the
users be able to define the colours?

Just one final remark: Tobias, the guy on stackexchange who helped me out
here gave me a working solution, so I can live with that but currently I
still think the "Textmarker-Experience" is missing in org-mode and should
be inside it without any user defined functions.

With kind regards,
Jens Lange



2017-09-22 23:38 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>:

> Hello,
>
> Jens Lange <jens.lange.de@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > "If they don't want items added to org-emphasis-alist they shouldn't use
> > the repeat customization type which allows insertion and deletion.
> > Furthermore, they should add a note about this restriction in the doc
> > string of org-emphasis-alist. Maybe, you can give a follow-up in the
> > bug-report about that."
>
> Indeed, the customize type needs to be fixed. Patch welcome!
>
> > So I did what he requested. He also provided me with a working solution.
> > Even with that said I might ask if you could consider supporting adding
> new
> > emphasis definitions in the future?
>
> I'm not even sure about what you are talking about.
>
> Allowing to extend `org-emphasis-alist' with any marker means there is
> not anymore a single Org format. Any one can define its own with fancy
> markers. This is not portable.Besides, having syntax you cannot control
> is asking for trouble. I'm totally against this idea.
>
> Org already provides 6 emphasis markers, which is enough in my book.
>
> On the other hand, you may be only interested in marking some text with
> a special face in a buffer. Both Org and Emacs provide ways to do that
> without messing with Org syntax. As pointed out in the thread,
> `org-font-lock-set-keywords-hook' is one of them.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>



-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüssen / With kind regards:
Jens Lange

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-23 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19  4:16 Jens Lange
2017-09-19  6:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-19 13:35   ` Jens Lange
2017-09-19 19:23     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-21  1:02       ` Jens Lange
2017-09-22 21:38         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-23 11:42           ` Jens Lange [this message]
2017-09-24  9:10             ` Nicolas Goaziou

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